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    Default I've been skeptical Trump would get charged... thats changing.

    Until recently I have not seen much that would indicate any of the prosecutors in the various investigations were working toward charging Trump or any of his cronies with serious crimes however that has changed in the last few days.

    The NYT today published a trove of emails about the fake elector scheme indicating that many involved not only understood it the plan was likely illegal, but that they did it anyway. The writers of the emails and planners of the "fake elector scheme" even referred to the electors as "fake" and discussed how to try to keep them hidden from Congress so they would have the element of suprise when they tried to get them pushed in to position so they could supplant the real electors.

    I suspect Rudy and some of Trumps lawyers will be indicted, and if there is any link to Trump, he is going to get it also.


    Additionally, the fact that a Federal Grand Jury subpoenaed Pence's Chief of Staff and the fact that he did not fight the subpoena but instead spent 8 hours testifying is something that would very much concern me if I was Trump or part of his inner circle in the days going onto January 6.

    I am finally seeing how this might unfold and that some groundwork toward serious indictments is being laid down.
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    Mike Roman and Boris Epshteyn seem to be particularly likely to be indicted.

    John Eastman is very likely going down, I just cant tell how far up the evidence goes.
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    "Some of the participants also expressed approval in the emails for keeping some of their activities out of the public eye.
    For instance, after Mr. Trump hosted Pennsylvania state legislators at the White House in late November to discuss reversing the election outcome..." - NYT


    Bruce Marks, (A lawyer for the campaign) in an email to the NYT, distanced himself from the plan to persuade Pence to decertify the electors... “I had no involvement with Professor Eastman’s advice regarding the vice president’s role, which I only learned about after the fact, and do not support.”


    The January 6th Committee has also heard testimony from Mr. Jacob, who was Mr. Pence’s counsel in the White House, that Mr. Eastman admitted in the Jan. 4 Oval Office meeting — with Mr. Trump present — that his plan to have Mr. Pence obstruct the electoral certification violated the Electoral Count Act.
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    Since you lie constantly, I wouldn’t believe you if you said the sun was shining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Since you lie constantly, I wouldn’t believe you if you said the sun was shining.
    I dont lie, run from reality you Hawley clone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I dont lie, run from reality you Hawley clone.
    You lied when you said that federal income taxes have never been higher...other lies too.

    You lie, pendejo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    You lied when you said that federal income taxes have never been higher...other lies too.

    You lie, pendejo.
    A mistake is not a lie, and the point stands, taxes are much much lower than they were for most of our history. You want to run from reality, its what your ilk do. Hawley and you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    A mistake is not a lie, and the point stands, taxes are much much lower than they were for most of our history. You want to run from reality, its what your ilk do. Hawley and you!
    You lied and your ilk lie constantly.

    You posted that federal income taxes have never been higher. A lie.

    In 1944-45, “the most progressive tax years in U.S. history,” the 94% rate applied to any income above $200,000 ($2.4 million in 2009 dollars, given inflation).


    Time to tell your client to just deny it when caught by his wife, in bed with another woman.

    Just lie, your profession and your ilk are skilled at lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Until recently I have not seen much that would indicate any of the prosecutors in the various investigations were working toward charging Trump or any of his cronies with serious crimes however that has changed in the last few days.

    The NYT today published a trove of emails about the fake elector scheme indicating that many involved not only understood it the plan was likely illegal, but that they did it anyway. The writers of the emails and planners of the "fake elector scheme" even referred to the electors as "fake" and discussed how to try to keep them hidden from Congress so they would have the element of suprise when they tried to get them pushed in to position so they could supplant the real electors.

    I suspect Rudy and some of Trumps lawyers will be indicted, and if there is any link to Trump, he is going to get it also.


    Additionally, the fact that a Federal Grand Jury subpoenaed Pence's Chief of Staff and the fact that he did not fight the subpoena but instead spent 8 hours testifying is something that would very much concern me if I was Trump or part of his inner circle in the days going onto January 6.

    I am finally seeing how this might unfold and that some groundwork toward serious indictments is being laid down.
    Doubtful Trump wouldn’t get charged, just further disgraced, but quite a few of Trump’s lackeys will fall

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Doubtful Trump wouldn’t get charged, just further disgraced, but quite a few of Trump’s lackeys will fall
    I still think that is the most likely scenario, but its inching closer to Trump himself lately.
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    Posters who claim to be lawyers and lie constantly

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    Merrick Garland does not rule out prosecuting Trump over Jan. 6
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/26/merr...ver-jan-6.html
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

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    I'm still skeptical.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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