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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    not dumb, we want to see what draconian levels you are willing to resort to here.

    Nobody suggests we ban certain vehicles or bill denominations as a solution - that idiocy is all on your side
    We do ban certain vehicles, and have no idea or what banning “bill denominations” means

    Nothing we aren’t already doing, for example, treat guns like we do vehicles, to include liability insurance, testing, renewing registrations, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Shooters are picking schools because they know there isn't likely to be an armed resistance.
    There are always going to be targets “less likely to have armed resistance,” you can not defend them all, nor can you predict the next shooter, the only variable we have to work with is that which makes it all possible, the gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Special pleading fallacy. Pivot fallacy. You cannot ban or limit guns.
    Stupid use of your fallacy glossary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Uvalde was staged by the Democrats.

    No, shooting a nutcase like this to save lives isn't Clint Eastwood or Barney Fife. It is simply shooting someone to save lives.

    I don't hug my gun, but I do wear it.

    Bigotry.
    “Uvalde was staged by the Democrats,” thanks Alex

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    Poor anchovies;



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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Wrong. Gangs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Isn't 2/3s of all "gun violence" suicide? Usually a single shot from a pistol?
    Don’t know if it is as high as two thirds, but close, another tragedy, but that still leaves close to fifteen thousand Americans as homicide victims, way and above any other developed nation in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed on quality of life; I'd rather commit suicide than languish in a bed with tubes in every orifice. The tie to the OP is that the Gun Banners want to ban guns and, without Assisted Suicide, banning guns takes away one means of Self-Help.

    Disagreed on "only one way to curtail gun violence" even though I don't know what way you mean. There is no practical way to end guns on the planet. Therefore, we must learn to live with them. <--- see what I did there? LOL

    The main concern is to preserve freedom and protect citizens from each other. IMO, the best for both is better mental health care. Identify the sick fucks and get them help.
    No one is free if they have to live in fear of being shot while going to a movie, church, mall, parade, theater, spa, grocery store, spa, club, senior citizen center, school, concert, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    whites are not killing blacks or anyone else everyday at record numbers in

    Chicago
    Philly
    Memphis
    Atlanta
    Detroit
    St Louis
    Jackson Miss
    NOLA
    Etc Etc

    Black's are!
    Nah, their doing it in gun free Red States, and I can’t recall any of the black city dwellers you are afraid of shooting up schools, churches, malls, theaters, etc.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    One just happened in NYC Subway





    We Have Normalized Mass Shootings in Black Communities.


    hroughout this year, we've had heartbreaking mass shooting events that took the lives of too many innocent people. These now include yesterday's Independence Day mass shooting event in Highland Park, IL. Within hours, mainstream media was examining the shooter's personal life, and political social media on both sides were attempting to decipher his political motivations, as if there needed to be one to carry out such a heinous act.



    These mass shooting events invigorate our political establishment to find legislative solutions. Whether you agree with their solutions or not isn't the point; the point is rather that these events motivate people with power and influence to advocate for solutions to prevent them from happening again, because they view events like these as being abnormal and refuse to normalize them.


    But this instinct not to normalize gun violence isn't applied equally. The truth is we've already normalized it in certain sectors of our society.



    The elephant in the room is that mass shootings happen all the time in cities across the country—they just happen in poor and low income Black neighborhoods. And all too many Americans are perfectly fine with this state of affairs, as long as they aren't personally experiencing it.




    I've seen countless television interviews after mass shootings in suburbia and small-town America. The people interviewed, as well as the interviews, always seem to say the same thing: "This isn't supposed to happen here." They are saying this because they cherish what had been their high expectation of safety, even in a world where danger exists.


    No one says that about the South Side of Chicago, or the streets of Philly. And too many of us have become comfortable with the tacit understanding that it is supposed to happen there, if only because it does so often.

    My question to Americans is, should there be any place in America where shootings are supposed to happen? Have we so lowered our expectations for the lives of Black people that we have normalized Black death when it results from intra-racial conflict?

    https://www.newsweek.com/we-have-nor...pinion-1721901


    You and the left ignore these mass shootings but bitch about the nutcase white shooter



    Whites shooting up people ...shooter is a nutcase..its tragic horrific etc etc


    Blacks shooting up people ...has become a way of life


    Jackson Miss is a small city but killings per capita ranks highest in the U.S. ...Blacks killing blacks in that city EVERYDAY and u never hear about the killings in Jackson ..NEVER


    But have a white guy ONE DAY go to any same size city and shoot 8 people killing 7 with the mean looking AR....its all over the news...its terrible something needs to be done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    if you dont understand why we have gun violence you must be a democrat.

    faiure to prosecute crime in dem run cities is the problem.
    Right, that was the problem in Texas and suburban Chicago

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    We do ban certain vehicles
    to solve vehicle theft? hahaha -bullshit

    Quote Originally Posted by you
    Tell us, what law is going to prevent the next auto theft? bank robbery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No one is free if they have to live in fear of being shot while going to a movie, church, mall, parade, theater, spa, grocery store, spa, club, senior citizen center, school, concert, etc.
    Chance of getting killed in car wreck on the way to a movie, church, mall, parade, theater, spa, grocery store, spa, club, senior citizen center, school, concert, etc. "ARE WAY WAY HIGHER" than getting killed by a mass shooter


    Do u live IN FEAR of getting in your car???

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    to solve vehicle theft? hahaha -bullshit
    We do ban certain vehicles

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