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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're missing the point, dum dum.

    the bigger issue is figuring out what causes such violence outbursts.

    but you only care if it's white boy with a gun doing bad things.

    you give other people and other weapons a free pass, and refuse to look at the bigger issues.

    the bigger issue is deep state dividing the nation on behalf of china with identity politics.

    you're their stooge.
    That is like saying debating the cause of the American Civil War is missing the point; we should look for the common causes in all civil wars, or the cause of all wars period. Mass shootings are a distinct phenomenon. If the AR 15 is a particular culprit, which it seems to be, and the shooters are of a particular type, as they most often seem to be, those similarities deserve to be identified and discussed. Not only the "violence" behind the "outbursts" is involved. In the case of mass shootings the common weapon of choice in the violence is involved as well. Your approach is one of avoidance. Whether you're intelligent or un-indoctrinated enough to see that is in doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    That is like saying debating the cause of the American Civil War is missing the point; we should look for the common causes in all civil wars, or the cause of all wars period. Mass shootings are a distinct phenomenon. If the AR 15 is a particular culprit, which it seems to be, and the shooters are of a particular type, as they most often seem to be, those similarities deserve to be identified and discussed. Not only the "violence" behind the "outbursts" is involved. In the case of mass shootings the common weapon of choice in the violence is involved as well. Your approach is one of avoidance. Whether you're intelligent or un-indoctrinated enough to see that is in doubt.
    Well, Marty, your approach is UN-Constitutional.

    Which shows a lack of intelligence, Marty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    A connection to these young boys who kill, yes....
    the ones running rampant in Chicago?.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Well, Marty, you approach is UN-Constitutional.

    Which shows a lack of intelligence, Marty.
    My approach is analytical, above your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    I've been told multiple times that an AR-15 is no more powerful than a comparable hunting rifle. You know, long barrel wood grain stock, etc. I believe that's true to an extent, but why don't we see those being used in attacks like this?

    The connection is psychological.
    A 7mm Remington Magnum deer rifle is about the same at 3,221 ft an AR-15 is 3,300 ft

    It just doesn't look mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    the ones running rampant in Chicago?.......
    Those people generally do not use AR-15’s or kill random people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Those people generally do not use AR-15’s or kill random people.
    so it's outside of your idiotically limited agenda for some reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    so it's outside of your idiotically limited agenda for some reason?
    No, just a different problem than I was talking about. Different causes and different solutions.

    A silly attempt of, “Ya, but…”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Those people generally do not use AR-15’s or kill random people.


    or kill random people

    so a 5 yr old killed on the porch or front yard is not a random killing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No, just a different problem than I was talking about. Different causes and different solutions.

    A silly attempt of, “Ya, but…”
    so only some violent murders matter, the ones you cherry pick to matter, with the right assailant and the right weapon?

    Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    or kill random people

    so a 5 yr old killed on the porch or front yard is not a random killing
    They do not “generally” kill random people. Do you lack a basic understanding of English or logic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    so only some violent murders matter, the ones you cherry pick to matter, with the right assailant and the right weapon?

    Gotcha.
    Not what I said, you seem desperate to play games and change the subject… Why?

    Your lack of understanding of basic logic is starting to help me understand your politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Not what I said, you seem desperate to play games and change the subject… Why?

    Your lack of understanding of basic logic is starting to help me understand your politics.
    I nailed you. you know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The connection that seems to elude every gun nut is not one between guns and random sorts of victims or between guns and the mere availability of other types of weapons. It is the connection between a certain kind of gun and a certain kind of killer. Almost every mass killing in the United States is with an AR-15 by a white male under the age of 25, usually under the age of 20. Why is this?
    Stop making shit up. The favored gun by school shooters is the .22 rifle or pistol.
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    With the gun it is because the AR-15 has both repetitive firepower and a great macho look.
    So does a large revolver.
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    With the killer it is because 1) he is hungry for that firepower and hungry for that great macho look and 2) as an angry and desperate type of young white male he is uniquely prone to having this hunger.
    No, you don't get to ban or limit any type, brand, or size of gun.
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