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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Since the end of lockdowns and coming out of the pandemic, blue states have been hemorrhaging population and businesses as these flee for friendlier red states. The big losers are California, Illinois, and New York with Florida, Texas, and N. Carolina being the biggest winners.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3a4663ce0f73f5
    https://alec.org/publication/rich-st...-14th-edition/
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/flee-blue...tates-pandemic

    It's pretty damn obvious that both people and business hate high taxes, oppressive government regulation, mask, vax, and lockdown mandates, and all the other bullshit that red Democrat run states pile on their residents by the truckload.

    Add in the kind of insane criminal activity in cities like New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, or San Francisco with district attorneys that do nothing to prosecute those criminals, and you get just one more reason to flee blue states for safer, saner, and more profitable red ones.
    The ALEC ratings are interesting.
    The best states are those with the lowest minimum wages. (Bad for workers.)
    The best states are the ones with the least progressive income taxes. (Bad for the lower income earners.)
    The best states are the ones with the lowest employer benefits for workers. (Bad for workers.)
    The best states are the ones that don't have an inheritance tax. (Great for the rich. Bad for everyone else.)

    Basically, all ALEC does is look at what is good for the rich and fails to account for how the people living in the state are actually doing compared to other states.


    But the story also says this
    A switch to remote work during the pandemic helped drive the population movement, as people previously tethered to office spaces in urban centers were able to seek out more space and a lower cost of living.

    The interesting thing is where that growth is and where the people are coming from.
    Californians moving to Maricopa county in Arizona. Looks like Arizona is going to get a lot bluer.

    Then it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years. Moving to a state that hates women, will likely result in all those people fleeing Texas and Florida to head back to the blue states. Money isn't the biggest driver for most people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Since the end of lockdowns and coming out of the pandemic, blue states have been hemorrhaging population and businesses as these flee for friendlier red states. The big losers are California, Illinois, and New York with Florida, Texas, and N. Carolina being the biggest winners.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3a4663ce0f73f5
    https://alec.org/publication/rich-st...-14th-edition/
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/flee-blue...tates-pandemic

    It's pretty damn obvious that both people and business hate high taxes, oppressive government regulation, mask, vax, and lockdown mandates, and all the other bullshit that red Democrat run states pile on their residents by the truckload.

    Add in the kind of insane criminal activity in cities like New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, or San Francisco with district attorneys that do nothing to prosecute those criminals, and you get just one more reason to flee blue states for safer, saner, and more profitable red ones.
    Spot on!

    Red states recovered faster from COVID pandemic than blue states: report
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/05/red-st...states-report/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    who cares
    Awwww, you sad, pathetic, worthless piece of human debris, suddenly you don't care anymore. Priceless. November is going to be harsh for you. Perhaps a move to Canada is in order. I'll help you pack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    so? quit fucking whining
    More irony from the biggest, most lying cry baby of them all. Run along you thread trolling, worthless piece of human filth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Good, go fuck yourself troll.
    Worthless thread trolling piece of human filth calling others troll. Ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Purple is the new color and seems to be the new trend as well.
    You'll be seeing a lot of RED this fall dipshit. Better fill your prescription meds now. There will be a massive run on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Red states are moving towards purple through time and attrition!
    BULLSHIT.

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    Every political season moves Red States closer to Purple!
    For the last three decades they have moved more towards red.

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    Trump and his TARDS are helping tremendously!
    I'm amused you don't know that you're the tard.

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    SO THANKS for all of your help as well!
    November will be harsh on leftist retards like you. Stock up on your meds now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Gene Simmons made a big production out of moving out of California because of the taxes and supposedly oppressive liberals.

    But he found he couldn't stand the extreme heat in Las Vegas, and moved back to Beverly Hills after just a few months of sweating his ass off in Vegas.
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    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    The following is subjective and not necessarily true on PRS's part:

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The ALEC ratings are interesting.
    The best states are those with the lowest minimum wages. (Bad for workers.)
    That would depend on the cost of living. If the state's cost of living were lower, then a lower wage might result in more disposable income for a worker than one with higher wages living in a high cost of living state.
    As an example, if you had a worker making $10 an hour in a state where renting a decent apartment costs, say, $800 a month versus a worker making $20 a hour in a state where that same apartment costs $2000 a month, the lower wage worker ends up with more disposable income.

    The best states are the ones with the least progressive income taxes. (Bad for the lower income earners.)
    Many of the "best" states don't have a state income tax. Others with non-progressive taxes have rates that are very low compared to loser states with high income tax rates. Some states, like Washington where there is no state income tax make up for it with onerous sales taxes which are far worse for low income earners.

    The best states are the ones with the lowest employer benefits for workers. (Bad for workers.)
    Isn't that between workers and employers to decide, not the state?

    The best states are the ones that don't have an inheritance tax. (Great for the rich. Bad for everyone else.)
    That's good for everyone. What right does the state have to take all your stuff just because you died? Isn't it fairer that it goes to your offspring and family for them to build on? Why should the state get a penny of that when you already paid taxes on it. It's like taxing income twice.

    Basically, all ALEC does is look at what is good for the rich and fails to account for how the people living in the state are actually doing compared to other states.
    Or, ALEC doesn't see Socialism and confiscation of wealth by government as a good thing which neither are.

    But the story also says this
    A switch to remote work during the pandemic helped drive the population movement, as people previously tethered to office spaces in urban centers were able to seek out more space and a lower cost of living.
    Why shouldn't they? Getting away from higher taxes, onerous intrusive government, and problems like crime are things most people would try and do.

    The interesting thing is where that growth is and where the people are coming from.
    Californians moving to Maricopa county in Arizona. Looks like Arizona is going to get a lot bluer.
    You can hope, but it doesn't look good right now for that to be happening.

    Then it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years. Moving to a state that hates women, will likely result in all those people fleeing Texas and Florida to head back to the blue states. Money isn't the biggest driver for most people.
    Which state(s) hate women? If you are judging that on the abortion issue alone, you are a complete idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You'll be seeing a lot of RED this fall dipshit. Better fill your prescription meds now. There will be a massive run on them.



    BULLSHIT.



    For the last three decades they have moved more towards red.



    I'm amused you don't know that you're the tard.



    November will be harsh on leftist retards like you. Stock up on your meds now.
    Weren't you the idiot that said Trump was going to win in 2020 and said that if Biden won you would leave the forum forever?

    Weren't you the Idiot that said the Republicans were going to win the Mid-terms in 2018- but yet the Democrats won total control of Congress?

    Dude, let's face it- YOU CAN'T PREDICT SHIT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Weren't you the idiot that said Trump was going to win in 2020 and said that if Biden won you would leave the forum forever?
    WRONG. But you being the lying, low IQ dumbass that you are would think something like that.

    I stated clearly that Trump would easily win barring some unknown catastrophe. That turned out to be Covid which democrats used as a cudgel during most all of 2020 only to turn out to be more incompetent and Fascistic and mail in balloting.

    I never claimed I would leave the forum forever if Biden won. but you are welcome to find that post, or admit that you are a lying sociopathic mental case.


    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Weren't you the Idiot that said the Republicans were going to win the Mid-terms in 2018- but yet the Democrats won total control of Congress?
    Once again, no you lying sociopathic mental case. I would never make such a claim knowing that midterms can be difficult. I did state that they could hold the senate, which they did and, it turns out, lost by a smaller margin than Obama did during his presidency. I wish you weren't stupid and a liar. Really I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Dude, let's face it- YOU CAN'T PREDICT SHIT!
    More projection from the sociopathic mental case. I wish you could buy yourself some self awareness and intelligence. Really I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The following is subjective and not necessarily true on PRS's part:


    That would depend on the cost of living. If the state's cost of living were lower, then a lower wage might result in more disposable income for a worker than one with higher wages living in a high cost of living state.
    As an example, if you had a worker making $10 an hour in a state where renting a decent apartment costs, say, $800 a month versus a worker making $20 a hour in a state where that same apartment costs $2000 a month, the lower wage worker ends up with more disposable income.
    It's true that cost of living would be important to know. But for some unknown reason ALEC doesn't include cost of living in its analysis of states. Actually, the reason is probably pretty easy to see. If they did so, then it would change their results to something other than showing red states are better.

    California's cost of living is about 60% higher than Mississippi and Alabama but California's minimum wage is $14 compared to the $7.25 in MS and AL
    https://www.insure.com/cost-of-living-by-state.html
    https://www.minimum-wage.org/wage-by-state


    Many of the "best" states don't have a state income tax. Others with non-progressive taxes have rates that are very low compared to loser states with high income tax rates. Some states, like Washington where there is no state income tax make up for it with onerous sales taxes which are far worse for low income earners.
    Washington has a business gross revenue tax. Their sales tax is about the same as it is in Texas. If it is onerous in WA then it is also onerous in Texas.

    Isn't that between workers and employers to decide, not the state?
    Only if you are an employer that wants slave labor.



    That's good for everyone. What right does the state have to take all your stuff just because you died? Isn't it fairer that it goes to your offspring and family for them to build on? Why should the state get a penny of that when you already paid taxes on it. It's like taxing income twice.
    Ridiculous argument since no state takes all your stuff with an estate tax. Often estates have money that was never taxed since it is all profits that were never taken.

    Or, ALEC doesn't see Socialism and confiscation of wealth by government as a good thing which neither are.
    ROFLMAO.. Sure.. that must be it.


    Why shouldn't they? Getting away from higher taxes, onerous intrusive government, and problems like crime are things most people would try and do.
    Where do you get away from high taxes? The rich can since they can move to a state without a progressive tax system. The poor pay high taxes everywhere.






    Which state(s) hate women? If you are judging that on the abortion issue alone, you are a complete idiot.[/QUOTE]
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    Stuart Varney: The Red States' win is dramatic



    STUART VARNEY: How many times have we said this: by almost every measure, red states, run by Republicans, beat blue states, run by Democrats.

    And now, it’s official: Moody’s Analytics has crunched the numbers. The red states' win is dramatic.

    11 of the 15 best performers were states run by Republicans.

    8 of the 10 worst were states run by Democrats.

    The biggest winners were Florida, Texas and North Carolina.

    The losers: California, New York and Illinois.



    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e4b4e116025dae


    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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