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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    This was the podcast, it was fantastic. Almost every group is going to have elites within them. Feminists are no different. And as with many groups, what the elite think/want isn’t always 100% in line with what other members of the group think most important.


    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000568084623


    I’m not sure why the move to the Big 10 would have any affect on ‘SC from an academic institution perspective, or even the individual kids themselves (short of longer flights being an issue). Nothing changes academically here.
    I think you sling around the word Feminist loosely and ignorantly!

    Please allow me to advise you that the opposite of a feminist is- misogynist! Which describes you the most?

    The word FEMINIST significantly, poses no mention of any gender. This opens up possibilities for both benefits and responsibilities of such work to achieve feminist goals as being shared by female, male and non-binary individuals equally across society. Anyone, can be a feminist.

    Feminism is a movement to end sexism, sexist exploitation, and oppression.

    AS A MAN, YOU SHOULD CHOOSE YOUR SIDE CAREFULLY AND INTELLIGENTLY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I think you sling around the word Feminist loosely and ignorantly!

    Please allow me to advise you that the opposite of a feminist is- misogynist! Which describes you the most?

    The word FEMINIST significantly, poses no mention of any gender. This opens up possibilities for both benefits and responsibilities of such work to achieve feminist goals as being shared by female, male and non-binary individuals equally across society. Anyone, can be a feminist.

    Feminism is a movement to end sexism, sexist exploitation, and oppression.

    AS A MAN, YOU SHOULD CHOOSE YOUR SIDE CAREFULLY AND INTELLIGENTLY!
    Ok. I have no idea what you just said in relation to what I just posted. Did you actually listen to the podcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Ok. I have no idea what you just said in relation to what I just posted. Did you actually listen to the podcast?
    Here, allow me make this so simple- even a 5th grader will understand- JUST FOR YOU!

    Either you are a feminist- or you are a misogynist!

    Either you are for women's rights- or you believe women should not have the same rights as men!

    There is no in-between!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Here, allow me make this so simple- even a 5th grader will understand- JUST FOR YOU!

    Either you are a feminist- or you are a misogynist!

    Either you are for women's rights- or you believe women should not have the same rights as men!

    There is no in-between!
    false dichotomy fallacy. only stupidity presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Here, allow me make this so simple- even a 5th grader will understand- JUST FOR YOU!

    Either you are a feminist- or you are a misogynist!

    Either you are for women's rights- or you believe women should not have the same rights as men!

    There is no in-between!
    Ok?

    I'm still not following where this is coming from. What does that have to do with the discussion/debate over whether women should be called women or the claimed more inclusive terms like birthing people? Are feminists who think along the lines of Bette Midler now misogynist because they don't use trans inclusive language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    false dichotomy fallacy. only stupidity presented.
    Nothing false or stupid in my comments!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Nothing false or stupid in my comments!
    just the dichotomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Here, allow me make this so simple- even a 5th grader will understand- JUST FOR YOU!

    Either you are a feminist- or you are a misogynist!

    Either you are for women's rights- or you believe women should not have the same rights as men!

    There is no in-between!
    women have more rights already

    you are not forced to fill out a selective service registration card and be ordered as a human meat shield in wars that society says you have to fight in.

    you just have to take responsibility for things you consider to be mistakes. boo hoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    just the dichotomy.
    I'm not understanding your comment.

    What dichotomy?

    That males can be feminists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    women have more rights already

    you are not forced to fill out a selective service registration card and be ordered as a human meat shield in wars that society says you have to fight in.

    you just have to take responsibility for things you consider to be mistakes. boo hoo
    What rights do women have that men don't have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I'm not understanding your comment.

    What dichotomy?

    That males can be feminists?
    A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    What rights do women have that men don't have?
    I just pointed it out

    Women are not forced to fill out a selective service card when they turn 18. They have never been ordered to go to war against their will.

    oh - so you had no idea most of the rights you consider so important were actually won because men had no choice and were conscripted to serve.

    see - that is the problem here - you claim a right over the autonomy of your body - but men do no have that right - they can be ordered to go risk their lives if society deems it necessary - so your lack of historical awareness is embarrassing for you as you demand the right to kill babies

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    I just pointed it out

    Women are not forced to fill out a selective service card when they turn 18. They have never been ordered to go to war against their will.

    oh - so you had no idea most of the rights you consider so important were actually won because men had no choice and were conscripted to serve.

    see - that is the problem here - you claim a right over the autonomy of your body - but men do no have that right - they can be ordered to go risk their lives if society deems it necessary - so your lack of historical awareness is embarrassing for you as you demand the right to kill babies
    Last time I looked- The draft was was abolished- 49 years ago to be exact- You know- just after Abortions became legal!

    You may want to keep up with the times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Last time I looked- The draft was was abolished- 49 years ago to be exact- You know- just after Abortions became legal!

    You may want to keep up with the times!
    wrong - 49 years ago we stopped drafting men to go to war - we did not say they have a right to not be drafted - that right is one only women have.

    every 18 year old male must still fill out a selective service registration card.

    At any time society can still force men to war - so men do not have autonomy you claim are a right of yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    wrong - 49 years ago we stopped drafting men to go to war - we did not say they have a right to not be drafted - that right is one only women have.

    every 18 year old male must still fill out a selective service registration card.

    At any time society can still force men to war - so men do not have autonomy you claim are a right of yours
    That Geeko person is one uniformed asshole.

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