Bette Middler Speaks

[Jarod]

For starters this “discussion” over the correct terms we use goes all the way to the White House so trying to pass this off as something only Fox News cares about shows your ignorance on the topic. (especially for one who professes to be so progressive)

And where did Fox News even come up here? Just throwing out straw men?

No, I am not talking about "the discussion", I am talking about a washed up old actress. It simply sounds like the type of screaming headline I see on Fox, elevating the post of some silly person nobody cares about, pretending she is some liberal icon.

Nobody cares what she says or thinks, except those trying to make it into a scandal. Its Fox's style.

[cawacko]

No, I am not talking about "the discussion", I am talking about a washed up old actress. It simply sounds like the type of screaming headline I see on Fox, elevating the post of some silly person nobody cares about, pretending she is some liberal icon.

Nobody cares what she says or thinks, except those trying to make it into a scandal. Its Fox's style.

Clearly there are people who care based on the responses she received. She’s not saying something other haven’t already said in this discussion but having some name recognition can draw a little more attention to it.

Because one is on the left or right doesn’t mean they agree with everyone else on their ‘side’ on every issue. People can have differing opinions. Within feminists and trans circles the debate over what is inclusive in rhetoric is playing out here.

[zymurgy]

everyone enjoy the 4th and the fredoms you have?

just a reminder, ever single MALE - over the 18 - still must fill out a selective service card - as the possibility of them being enlisted still exists if society deems the emergency is grave enough

so enough of the my body, my choice shit. Hey women - like Bette Midler - you are a still given all sorts of privileges you seem to of forgotten about

[Doc Dutch]

everyone enjoy the 4th and the fredoms you have?

just a reminder, ever single MALE - over the 18 - still must fill out a selective service card - as the possibility of them being enlisted still exists if society deems the emergency is grave enough

so enough of the my body, my choice shit. Hey women - like Bette Midler - you are a still given all sorts of privileges you seem to of forgotten about

Yes.

BTDT. Did you serve? My family has three military retirees. Yours?

Dumbass, filling out a card is not the same as a draft. If you had ever served in the military, and now I know you didn't, you'd know what I'm saying is true.

Why do you hate America so much, sock?

[archives]

Saban has been paying players for years. Not shocking he’s not happy with losing some of his advantage. How many players sit out game already for academic reasons? Not that many that I’m aware. I don’t think this love changes that.

But yes, college football is obviously changing and there will likely be two major conferences and others just below them. Whether we like or not it’s the reality (I’m not a fan).

Schools can go the Ivy League model if they want. That’s one way out of the rat race

More than just changing, not the same product, in time, the nostalgia of marching bans, pep rallies, beating the arch rival, all the fanfare will be gone, it will become a straight made for TV product, with, as I said, semipro organizations pimping the school’s name completely removed from the actual institution. Will the big TV markets this is all courting be interested in a product that is done better on Sunday?

Question becomes what happens to the other sports, in particular basketball, the cash cow NCAA Tournament wouldn’t sell as it does if it loses the Hosier theme

[Flash]

I saw this being discussed on social media. Based on her tweeting history she is pretty clearly a political progressive.

She’s getting a lot of sh*t for the second half of her tweet. If I were to guess there’s a generational issue involved here. She’s spent her whole life calling women women so the new ‘inclusive’ terms are probably not as familiar to her. This isn’t the first time, nor will it be the last, that it has occurred (generational differences). New rhetoric replaces the old.

What is the correct inclusive term?

[Flash]

More than just changing, not the same product, in time, the nostalgia of marching bans, pep rallies, beating the arch rival, all the fanfare will be gone, it will become a straight made for TV product, with, as I said, semipro organizations pimping the school’s name completely removed from the actual institution. Will the big TV markets this is all courting be interested in a product that is done better on Sunday?

Question becomes what happens to the other sports, in particular basketball, the cash cow NCAA Tournament wouldn’t sell as it does if it loses the Hosier theme

Students are already leaving high school early to enroll in college to get some of the NIL money.

[cawacko]

What is the correct inclusive term?

I believe it’s birthing people and menstruators


https://www.newsweek.com/bette-midle...721600?amp=1Da

[cawacko]

More than just changing, not the same product, in time, the nostalgia of marching bans, pep rallies, beating the arch rival, all the fanfare will be gone, it will become a straight made for TV product, with, as I said, semipro organizations pimping the school’s name completely removed from the actual institution. Will the big TV markets this is all courting be interested in a product that is done better on Sunday?

Question becomes what happens to the other sports, in particular basketball, the cash cow NCAA Tournament wouldn’t sell as it does if it loses the Hosier theme

It’s not out of the question that college football becomes semi pro at some point (although at that point no one will watch so someone is going to have to subsidize it)

Most other sports rely on football to subsidize them so not sure what they do. Probably still exist but simply as club sports

[Minister of Truth]

I saw this being discussed on social media. Based on her tweeting history she is pretty clearly a political progressive.

She’s getting a lot of sh*t for the second half of her tweet. If I were to guess there’s a generational issue involved here. She’s spent her whole life calling women women so the new ‘inclusive’ terms are probably not as familiar to her. This isn’t the first time, nor will it be the last, that it has occurred (generational differences). New rhetoric replaces the old.

Cancel her.

[archives]

It’s not out of the question that college football becomes semi pro at some point (although at that point no one will watch so someone is going to have to subsidize it)

Most other sports rely on football to subsidize them so not sure what they do. Probably still exist but simply as club sports

Your too nostalgic, already semipro with half the existing members in the two conferences, and now with the million dollar contracts, and loss of institutional control, certainly not college sports, not the traditional Saturday college football I’d say you think it is

[cawacko]

Your too nostalgic, already semipro with half the existing members in the two conferences, and now with the million dollar contracts, and loss of institutional control, certainly not college sports, not the traditional Saturday college football I’d say you think it is

The college football I grew up on is long gone. Today the money and conferences are bigger and players have far more power (transfer rights and N.I.L.)

As long as teams are still tied to the Universities there will be demand. Disconnect them from the schools and that goes away (think college basketball vs G League)

[Jarod]

Clearly there are people who care based on the responses she received. She’s not saying something other haven’t already said in this discussion but having some name recognition can draw a little more attention to it.

Because one is on the left or right doesn’t mean they agree with everyone else on their ‘side’ on every issue. People can have differing opinions. Within feminists and trans circles the debate over what is inclusive in rhetoric is playing out here.

She is silly and not a representative of any community other than washed up actresses.

[cawacko]

She is silly and not a representative of any community other than washed up actresses.

I don't have thoughts on her one way or the other but she's speaking about a sensitive subject and one, in certain groups, is at the for front of what they are fighting for. (and she's not the only one who shares the beliefs she stated - having the name recognition she does means her comments will get more attention)

Edit: wait, she's not a woman who can speak on woman's issues? Isn't that attitude coming from a man a perfect example of the patriarchy at work? (or something like that)



Bette Midler Divides Fans by Saying Trans-Inclusive Language Erases Women

https://www.newsweek.com/bette-midle...-1721600?amp=1

[Jarod]

I don't have thoughts on her one way or the other but she's speaking about a sensitive subject and one, in certain groups, is at the for front of what they are fighting for. (and she's not the only one who shares the beliefs she stated - having the name recognition she does means her comments will get more attention)

Edit: wait, she's not a woman who can speak on woman's issues? Isn't that attitude coming from a man a perfect example of the patriarchy at work? (or something like that)



Bette Midler Divides Fans by Saying Trans-Inclusive Language Erases Women

https://www.newsweek.com/bette-midle...-1721600?amp=1

She can speak all she wants, but only certain people give it any attention.