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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    She can speak all she wants, but only certain people give it any attention.
    Yeah, people to whom this is important. I don’t think most people spend their time worrying about this but clearly in the feminist and trans communities it’s a big deal and the White House in 2021 put out papers using the new ‘inclusive’ language so it’s reached the highest level of our government.

    And look at the reaction to JK Rawlings and Dave Chapelle over the last year or two. This is a big deal to a fair number of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Yeah, people to whom this is important. I don’t think most people spend their time worrying about this but clearly in the feminist and trans communities it’s a big deal and the White House in 2021 put out papers using the new ‘inclusive’ language so it’s reached the highest level of our government.

    And look at the reaction to JK Rawlings and Dave Chapelle over the last year or two. This is a big deal to a fair number of people.
    The subject itself might be a big deal, but what this lady thinks about it is not a big deal.

    Unless you are struck stupid by a tiny level of fame... are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The subject itself might be a big deal, but what this lady thinks about it is not a big deal.

    Unless you are struck stupid by a tiny level of fame... are you?
    I’m speaking about the subject. Celebrities opinions mean no more to me than anyone else but we magnify their voices. So her saying what others do gets attention because of her fame.

    I understand being a progressive (or conservative) doesn’t mean you have to care about every issue as much as everyone else but since you proclaim yourself to be so progressive you dismiss this topic pretty easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Yeah, people to whom this is important. I don’t think most people spend their time worrying about this but clearly in the feminist and trans communities it’s a big deal and the White House in 2021 put out papers using the new ‘inclusive’ language so it’s reached the highest level of our government.

    And look at the reaction to JK Rawlings and Dave Chapelle over the last year or two. This is a big deal to a fair number of people.
    Some people believe that anyone with a Twitter account must be important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I’m speaking about the subject. Celebrities opinions mean no more to me than anyone else but we magnify their voices. So her saying what others do gets attention because of her fame.

    I understand being a progressive (or conservative) doesn’t mean you have to care about every issue as much as everyone else but since you proclaim yourself to be so progressive you dismiss this topic pretty easily
    I am not dismissing the topic, I am dismissing the silly link to a former star.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I am not dismissing the topic, I am dismissing the silly link to a former star.
    Kind of hard to say you aren’t dismissing the topic when the article is about the debate over whether women should be called women or the supposedly more inclusive terms yet you dismiss it

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Kind of hard to say you aren’t dismissing the topic when the article is about the debate over whether women should be called women or the supposedly more inclusive terms yet you dismiss it
    It is quite obvious this Jarod person has nothing rational to respond to you with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Kind of hard to say you aren’t dismissing the topic when the article is about the debate over whether women should be called women or the supposedly more inclusive terms yet you dismiss it
    I’m not talking about the article, I’m reacting to your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I saw this being discussed on social media. Based on her tweeting history she is pretty clearly a political progressive.

    She’s getting a lot of sh*t for the second half of her tweet. If I were to guess there’s a generational issue involved here. She’s spent her whole life calling women women so the new ‘inclusive’ terms are probably not as familiar to her. This isn’t the first time, nor will it be the last, that it has occurred (generational differences). New rhetoric replaces the old.


    yes. the revolution is alienating even progressives.

    denying the reality of gender is just fucking insane.

    these are crazy people, testing their power by getting you to agree to crazy things.

    there is reality.


    humanity is a sexually dimorphic species.

    2+2=4.

    THe biden regime is trying to start a nuclear war with russia for fuck's sake.

    and these dumb dems go right along with it because they are brainwashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m not talking about the article, I’m reacting to your post.
    Yes, you’ve repeatedly said no one cares and it’s silly to care about the trans argument of inclusion. Lots of people share your viewpoint but very surprising to see it come from you, someone who professes to be so progressive

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    People who use "woke" pronouns are trying to destroy the English language and should be called to task over it.

    I just walk away from anybody who does it with me. I skive them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Yes, you’ve repeatedly said no one cares and it’s silly to care about the trans argument of inclusion. Lots of people share your viewpoint but very surprising to see it come from you, someone who professes to be so progressive
    I said it was silly to care about trans argument of inclusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    People who use "woke" pronouns are trying to destroy the English language and should be called to task over it.

    I just walk away from anybody who does it with me. I skive them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    People who use "woke" pronouns are trying to destroy the English language and should be called to task over it.

    I just walk away from anybody who does it with me. I skive them.
    Definite element of generational play here. You've probably spent most of your life calling women women and I can imagine now saying birthing people doesn't come naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Definite element of generational play here. You've probably spent most of your life calling women women and I can imagine now saying birthing people doesn't come naturally.
    no.

    it's fucking stupid to say "birthing people" when women are the ones who give birth.

    Just because maybe with great scientific effort a man can give birth, it's fucking stupid to portray that as non-freakish.

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