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    Default The five most damaging allegations against Trump from the Jan. 6 hearings

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    The House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6 has dominated the news agenda during the past month, holding six public hearings.
    The panel, comprised of seven Democrats and two Republicans critical of Trump — Reps. Liz Cheney (Wyo.) and Adam Kinzinger (Ill.) — has laid out a compelling case against the former president.
    By the panel’s account, Trump knew his claims of election fraud were bogus, recklessly encouraged the Jan 6. rioters and endangered his own vice president as members of a mob marching on the Capitol called for Mike Pence’s hanging.
    Whether the panel will make a criminal referral of Trump to the Department of Justice has not been settled. And there are still more hearings to go.
    Here are five of the most damaging details leveled against Trump during the proceedings so far.

    Ivanka Trump accepted there was no widespread election fraud
    The first Jan. 6 hearing was carried in primetime on June 9 and drew an audience of around 20 million people.
    There was plenty of dramatic testimony from the hearing room but the most telling detail — and the one with the most lasting impact — came from a video interview with Ivanka Trump.
    The president’s elder daughter said that she accepted the view of then-Attorney General Bill Barr that there was no evidence that fraud altered the outcome of the 2020 election.
    “It affected my perspective,” Ivanka Trump said on the video, referring to Barr’s assessment. “I respect Attorney General Barr so I accepted what he was saying.”

    Trump allegedly knew the Jan. 6 crowd had weapons — and wanted to join them at the Capitol anyways
    Cassidy Hutchinson, a 26-year-old former aide to former Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, caused a sensation when she testified to a hastily convened meeting of the committee on June 28.
    Hutchinson related all kinds of unflattering details regarding Trump’s behavior around Jan. 6.
    Controversy raged for days over her testimony.
    She said she was told a story of Trump lunging for the steering wheel of his vehicle and tussling with a Secret Service agent after being informed he could not go to the Capitol after his rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6.

    Trump’s own campaign manager balked at fraud claims and was proud to be on ‘Team Normal’
    The panel’s second hearing, held on June 13, made the case that Trump must have known his claims of election fraud were bogus, given how many people within his own inner circle were telling him this.
    The hearing rendered an unflattering portrait of Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who served as Trump’s personal lawyer.
    Trump campaign general counsel Matt Morgan recalled how “law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that Rudy Giuliani was making publicly” because of the dearth of evidence to back them up.
    White House lawyer Eric Herschmann said he thought that the overall thrust of the arguments put forth by Giuliani and other Trump backers such as attorney Sidney Powell was “nuts.”
    A memorable phrase from Trump 2020 campaign manager Bill Stepien best summed up the schisms that were developing in the then-president’s orbit.
    “I didn’t mind being characterized as being part of ‘Team Normal’, as reporters kinda started to do around that point in time,” Stepien said in a video deposition.

    The ‘Election Defense Fund’ that didn’t exist
    The second hearing also focused on the Trump campaign’s fundraising efforts in the immediate aftermath of the election.
    “The ‘Big Lie’ was also a big rip-off,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) contended.
    Lofgren cited the barrage of fundraising emails Team Trump sent to supporters between Election Day and Jan. 6. On some days, more than 20 such emails were blasted out.
    Many encouraged the recipients to contribute to an “Election Defense Fund,” the suggestion being that the money would be used to push Trump’s claims of fraud in court.
    One problem: the Election Defense Fund didn’t exist.

    Trump reportedly thought Mike Pence deserved to hang
    One of many shocking occurrences on Jan. 6 was the call from some in the crowd to hang Pence, who resisted urgings from Trump and his allies to help overturn the election.
    Trump had sought both publicity and privately to ratchet up the pressure on Pence, including in his speech at the Ellipse.
    According to Hutchinson’s testimony, the then-president was blithely unconcerned with Pence’s fate even after serious violence broke out.
    Hutchinson recounted witnessing a conversation between Meadows and White House counsel Pat Cipollone soon after the two had been in Trump’s presence.
    Cipollone, she said, urged more direct action to quell the violence because “they are literally calling for the vice president to be f-ing hanged.”
    Meadows, according to Hutchinson, said “something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.”
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    This is the worst one. Stealing from his most ardent supporters.

    The ‘Election Defense Fund’ that didn’t exist
    The second hearing also focused on the Trump campaign’s fundraising efforts in the immediate aftermath of the election.
    “The ‘Big Lie’ was also a big rip-off,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) contended.
    Lofgren cited the barrage of fundraising emails Team Trump sent to supporters between Election Day and Jan. 6. On some days, more than 20 such emails were blasted out.
    Many encouraged the recipients to contribute to an “Election Defense Fund,” the suggestion being that the money would be used to push Trump’s claims of fraud in court.
    One problem: the Election Defense Fund didn’t exist.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    1. HIS DAUGHTER DISAGREED WITH HIM.

    2. MADEUP BULLSHIT=WHY IT IS "ALLEGEDLY".

    3. HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER DISAGREED WITH HIM

    4. Money to fight election fraud , was used to fight election fraud.

    5.MORE MADEUP BULLSHIT = WHY "REPORTEDLY"



    PLEASE EXPLAIN WHICH OF THE ABOVE ARE ACTUAL CRIMES, DUMBFUCK.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    1. HIS DAUGHTER DISAGREED WITH HIM.

    2. MADEUP BULLSHIT=WHY IT IS "ALLEGEDLY".

    3. HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER DISAGREED WITH HIM

    4. Money to fight election fraud , was used to fight election fraud.

    5.MORE MADEUP BULLSHIT = WHY "REPORTEDLY"



    PLEASE EXPLAIN WHICH OF THE ABOVE ARE ACTUAL CRIMES, DUMBFUCK.
    So how much money did you give to Trump's Election Defense Fund, DUMBFUCK?
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    if those are the 5 "worst" allegations then this has been a massive waste of time.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    if those are the 5 "worst" allegations then this has been a massive waste of time.
    So scamming millions of trump supporters out of hundreds of millions of dollars is no big deal to you?

    We're you one of them that Trump scanned?
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    So how much money did you give to Trump's Election Defense Fund, DUMBFUCK?
    How much tax payer money is being wasted on this witch hunt Politburo "investigation"
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    Treason,Insurrection,Manslaughter, inciting a riot,assault on a SS officer
    What day is Michaelmas on?
    When is the Mass on Michael?
    AM I ,I AM's,AM I
    I AM,I AM's, AM I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    if those are the 5 "worst" allegations then this has been a massive waste of time.
    You have no morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    How much tax payer money is being wasted on this witch hunt Politburo "investigation"
    shut up moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    How much tax payer money is being wasted on this witch hunt Politburo "investigation"
    You're scared, aren't you ExcessLies. You're scared your Fat Donald is going down. You can't hide it. You know your boy is fucked.
    Your desperate attempt to convince others to 'look away' and 'pay no attention to those people behind the curtain' is falling on deaf ears.
    People want to know the real truth, not the Right Wing truth or Trump's truth out YOUR truth. And it's killing you, isn't it, ExcessLies.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    The worst by far is planning to lie if he lost knowing his voters would go along, then stringing it out from Nov. 3 to Jan 6 when he sent an armed mob to attack the Capitol and somehow stop Congress from taking the last step in Biden’s election before the inauguration just two weeks ahead and the end of his Presidency. A scenario
    you wouldn’t have dreamed possible until it happened.
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    Default Cheney: Jan. 6 panel could make multiple criminal referrals of Trump

    (Reuters) - The congressional panel investigating last year's attack on the U.S. Capitol by Donald Trump's supporters could make multiple referrals to the Justice Department seeking criminal charges against the former president, its vice chair Liz Cheney said.

    Cheney, in an interview aired on Sunday on ABC's "This Week" program, also said the department does not need to wait for the House of Representatives select committee to make a formal recommendation of charges to take action against Trump.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/che...mp-2022-07-03/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    You're scared, aren't you ExcessLies. You're scared your Fat Donald is going down. You can't hide it. You know your boy is fucked.
    Your desperate attempt to convince others to 'look away' and 'pay no attention to those people behind the curtain' is falling on deaf ears.
    People want to know the real truth, not the Right Wing truth or Trump's truth out YOUR truth. And it's killing you, isn't it, ExcessLies.
    Pffth You are an idiot who thinks his electric wheelchair is a Tesla. This show trial orchestrated by the Politibour is convincing no one. Except for you morons of course. Conservatives aren't worried about anything. This whole whitch hunt show trial is just evidence of how scared and desperate the Dems are. I bet you Depends are soaked. Get your attendant to help you put on another pair I'm sure you stink by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Pffth You are an idiot who thinks his electric wheelchair is a Tesla. This show trial orchestrated by the Politibour is convincing no one. Except for you morons of course. Conservatives aren't worried about anything. This whole whitch hunt show trial is just evidence of how scared and desperate the Dems are. I bet you Depends are soaked. Get your attendant to help you put on another pair I'm sure you stink by now.
    Ha! You're losing. You know you're losing. You will continue to lose. Let this be a lesson to you, ExcessLies.
    When you follow a loser, you will lose.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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