The end of particle physics?

[Doc Dutch]

Particle physics is massively expensive, and the research community will always have to justify the expense.

My guess is that genetics has replaced physics in the 21st century, as the leading recipients of funding. DNA and genes are just an easier sell to decision makers and the general public than supersymmetry and string theory, at this time.

Agreed on genetics. It's not beyond the realm of possibilities to "grow" spaceships or colonies on the Moon.

[Cypress]

The validity of the Higgs boson is in question. They were being pressured to justify the cost of the LHC and poof a new particle appeared that is too small to see. Disagreeing with you doesn't make me the enemy.

Higgs boson has been independently confirmed by separate, independent research teams -- unless you want to claim they are all in on a vast conspiracy they have somehow been able to keep hidden for a decade.

You didn't invent the term God particle, so obviously I wasn't calling you dumb. What was dumb was the journalists who kept running around advertising it as the God particle.

[goat]

Higgs boson has been independently confirmed by separate, independent research teams -- unless you want to claim they are all in on a vast conspiracy they have somehow been able to keep hidden for a decade.

You didn't invent the term God particle, so obviously I wasn't calling you dumb. What was dumb was the journalists who kept running around advertising it as the God particle.

Creating the particle that holds the universe together is somewhat of a miracle, especially the timing of it.

[Cypress]

Creating the particle that holds the universe together is somewhat of a miracle, especially the timing of it.

Not a miracle, it was good science.

The timing makes perfect sense, because the Large Hardon Collider was engineered to detect the Higgs boson and possibly other particles, to test the hypothesis of supersymmetry, and to enhance and improve our current understanding of the Standard Model .

[Mason Michaels]

Creating the particle that holds the universe together is somewhat of a miracle, especially the timing of it.

The question is what or who caused the big bang?

[BidenPresident]

The question is what or who caused the big bang?

There is no cause to the big bang.

[Doc Dutch]

There is no cause to the big bang.

Maybe so, maybe not. No one knows.

It had a definite beginning. It'd be interesting to know more about the circumstances around the Big Bang.

https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com..._timeline.html

From our current understanding of how the Big Bang might have progressed, taking into account theories about inflation, Grand Unification, etc, we can put together an approximate timeline as follows:

• Planck Epoch (or Planck Era), from zero to approximately 10-43 seconds (1 Planck Time):
• This is the closest that current physics can get to the absolute beginning of time, and very little can be known about this period. General relativity proposes a gravitational singularity before this time (although even that may break down due to quantum effects), and it is hypothesized that the four fundamental forces (electromagnetism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force and gravity) all have the same strength, and are possibly even unified into one fundamental force, held together by a perfect symmetry which some have likened to a sharpened pencil standing on its point (i.e. too symmetrical to last). At this point, the universe spans a region of only 10-35 meters (1 Planck Length), and has a temperature of over 1032°C (the Planck Temperature).
• Grand Unification Epoch, from 10–43 seconds to 10–36 seconds:
• The force of gravity separates from the other fundamental forces (which remain unified), and the earliest elementary particles (and antiparticles) begin to be created.
• Inflationary Epoch, from 10–36 seconds to 10–32 seconds:
• Triggered by the separation of the strong nuclear force, the universe undergoes an extremely rapid exponential expansion, known as cosmic inflation. The linear dimensions of the early universe increases during this period of a tiny fraction of a second by a factor of at least 1026 to around 10 centimeters (about the size of a grapefruit). The elementary particles remaining from the Grand Unification Epoch (a hot, dense quark-gluon plasma, sometimes known as “quark soup”) become distributed very thinly across the universe.
• Timeline and major events since the Big Bang - click for larger version
• (Click for a larger version)
• Timeline and major events since the Big Bang
• (Original Source N/A: U. of Arizona Lectures: ircamera.as.arizona.edu/NatSci102/
• lectures/eraplanck.htm - originally from "The Essential Cosmic Perspective", by Bennett et al.)
• Electroweak Epoch, from 10–36 seconds to 10–12 seconds:
• As the strong nuclear force separates from the other two, particle interactions create large numbers of exotic particles, including W and Z bosons and Higgs bosons (the Higgs field slows particles down and confers mass on them, allowing a universe made entirely out of radiation to support things that have mass).
• Quark Epoch, from 10–12 seconds to 10–6 seconds:
• Quarks, electrons and neutrinos form in large numbers as the universe cools off to below 10 quadrillion degrees, and the four fundamental forces assume their present forms. Quarks and antiquarks annihilate each other upon contact, but, in a process known as baryogenesis, a surplus of quarks (about one for every billion pairs) survives, which will ultimately combine to form matter.
• Hadron Epoch, from 10–6 seconds to 1 second:
• The temperature of the universe cools to about a trillion degrees, cool enough to allow quarks to combine to form hadrons (like protons and neutrons). Electrons colliding with protons in the extreme conditions of the Hadron Epoch fuse to form neutrons and give off massless neutrinos, which continue to travel freely through space today, at or near to the speed of light. Some neutrons and neutrinos re-combine into new proton-electron pairs. The only rules governing all this apparently random combining and re-combining are that the overall charge and energy (including mass-energy) be conserved.
• Lepton Epoch, from 1 second to 3 minutes:
• After the majority (but not all) of hadrons and antihadrons annihilate each other at the end of the Hadron Epoch, leptons (such as electrons) and antileptons (such as positrons) dominate the mass of the universe. As electrons and positrons collide and annihilate each other, energy in the form of photons is freed up, and colliding photons in turn create more electron-positron pairs.
• Nucleosynthesis, from 3 minutes to 20 minutes:
• The temperature of the universe falls to the point (about a billion degrees) where atomic nuclei can begin to form as protons and neutrons combine through nuclear fusion to form the nuclei of the simple elements of hydrogen, helium and lithium. After about 20 minutes, the temperature and density of the universe has fallen to the point where nuclear fusion cannot continue.
• Photon Epoch (or Radiation Domination), from 3 minutes to 240,000 years:
• During this long period of gradual cooling, the universe is filled with plasma, a hot, opaque soup of atomic nuclei and electrons. After most of the leptons and antileptons had annihilated each other at the end of the Lepton Epoch, the energy of the universe is dominated by photons, which continue to interact frequently with the charged protons, electrons and nuclei.
• Recombination/Decoupling, from 240,000 to 300,000 years:
• As the temperature of the universe falls to around 3,000 degrees (about the same heat as the surface of the Sun) and its density also continues to fall, ionized hydrogen and helium atoms capture electrons (known as “recombination”), thus neutralizing their electric charge. With the electrons now bound to atoms, the universe finally becomes transparent to light, making this the earliest epoch observable today. It also releases the photons in the universe which have up till this time been interacting with electrons and protons in an opaque photon-baryon fluid (known as “decoupling”), and these photons (the same ones we see in today’s cosmic background radiation) can now travel freely. By the end of this period, the universe consists of a fog of about 75% hydrogen and 25% helium, with just traces of lithium.
• Dark Age (or Dark Era), from 300,000 to 150 million years:
• The period after the formation of the first atoms and before the first stars is sometimes referred to as the Dark Age. Although photons exist, the universe at this time is literally dark, with no stars having formed to give off light. With only very diffuse matter remaining, activity in the universe has tailed off dramatically, with very low energy levels and very large time scales. Little of note happens during this period, and the universe is dominated by mysterious “dark matter”.
• Reionization, 150 million to 1 billion years:
• The first quasars form from gravitational collapse, and the intense radiation they emit reionizes the surrounding universe, the second of two major phase changes of hydrogen gas in the universe (the first being the Recombination period). From this point on, most of the universe goes from being neutral back to being composed of ionized plasma.
• The process of star formation - click for larger version
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• The process of star formation
• (Original Source N/A: ssc.spitzer.caltech.edu/
• documents/compendium/galsci/)
• Star and Galaxy Formation, 300 - 500 million years onwards:
• Gravity amplifies slight irregularities in the density of the primordial gas and pockets of gas become more and more dense, even as the universe continues to expand rapidly. These small, dense clouds of cosmic gas start to collapse under their own gravity, becoming hot enough to trigger nuclear fusion reactions between hydrogen atoms, creating the very first stars.
• The first stars are short-lived supermassive stars, a hundred or so times the mass of our Sun, known as Population III (or “metal-free”) stars. Eventually Population II and then Population I stars also begin to form from the material from previous rounds of star-making. Larger stars burn out quickly and explode in massive supernova events, their ashes going to form subsequent generations of stars. Large volumes of matter collapse to form galaxies and gravitational attraction pulls galaxies towards each other to form groups, clusters and superclusters.
• Solar System Formation, 8.5 - 9 billion years:
• Our Sun is a late-generation star, incorporating the debris from many generations of earlier stars, and it and the Solar System around it form roughly 4.5 to 5 billion years ago (8.5 to 9 billion years after the Big Bang).
• Today, 13.7 billion years:
• The expansion of the universe and recycling of star materials into new stars continues.

[Mason Michaels]

There is no cause to the big bang.

How so? Or is this just opinion?

[Mason Michaels]

Maybe so, maybe not. No one knows.

It had a definite beginning. It'd be interesting to know more about the circumstances around the Big Bang.

https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com..._timeline.html

Lucifer tried to over God,that millisecond the reaction was the Big Bang and the creation of "The Angel who has power over fire",and the physical universe

[Doc Dutch]

Lucifer tried to over God,that millisecond the reaction was the Big Bang and the creation of "The Angel who has power over fire",and the physical universe

Link?

I like the story about how aliens revolted and descended to Earth to mix with the inhabitants. More realistic.

[Mason Michaels]

Link?

I like the story about how aliens revolted and descended to Earth to mix with the inhabitants. More realistic.

My Epiphany

[Doc Dutch]

My Epiphany

PM me a copy and I read it.

[BidenPresident]

How so? Or is this just opinion?

We live in a universe. Whether it is caused or not, it's still there.

[Mason Michaels]

PM me a copy and I read it.

It's in my head!

[Mason Michaels]

We live in a universe. Whether it is caused or not, it's still there.

You're back pedaling