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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    IT WAS REPUBLICANS WHO WOULD , OVERWHELMINGLY , FIGHT TO DEFEND AMERICA, COWARD-O_CRATS WHO WOULD NOT ,REMEMBER?
    Easy words to type from the safety of a keyboard

    I have always believed deeds matter more than words.

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    Despite the gravity of Trump's warning and the supposed existential threat the republic faced, you and ever other conservative on this board watched from the comfort of home as a few hundred MAGA fat asses tried to storm the Capitol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Like Ron Paul, I do not believe that America has any business getting involved in the Ukraine War except for humanitarian aid.

    We are meddling in something that is NONE of our business.


    I will ask again...where did I say that Ukraine should surrender?


    Or are you too much of a coward to admit that you just made it up?
    So you wouldn't have helped Britain in 1940 when she stood alone and outgunned against the Nazi onslaught.


    Your posting history is identical to Marjorie Taylor Green: Ukraine should just give up because it's inevitable they will lose, and it's pointless for them to fight.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...67#post5011267

    From the perspective of most Ukrainians citizens, there is no distinction between that, and asking them to submit and surrender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    I think that the Ukraine War is NONE of America's business.

    And I want NO taxpayer money/arms going towards it.

    Europe is quite capable of arming Ukraine, it's their continent, their war
    We have no interest in what happens, Ukraine is corrupt and it's democracy is questionable..
    But the bottom line is spending 60 billion,and drawing down our inventory of high tech tactical weapons
    is not in our interest. Not our war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Europe is quite capable of arming Ukraine, it's their continent, their war
    We have no interest in what happens, Ukraine is corrupt and it's democracy is questionable..
    But the bottom line is spending 60 billion,and drawing down our inventory of high tech tactical weapons
    is not in our interest. Not our war.
    You cried like a girl when Biden withdrew us from Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You cried like a girl when Biden withdrew us from Afghanistan.
    quit talking like a moron.
    I criticized the rout ( screwed up "withdrawal") and pulling contractors out so they couldn't use Bagram

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Europe is quite capable of arming Ukraine, it's their continent, their war
    We have no interest in what happens, Ukraine is corrupt and it's democracy is questionable..
    But the bottom line is spending 60 billion,and drawing down our inventory of high tech tactical weapons
    is not in our interest. Not our war.
    EXACTLY!!!
    Well said.

    We gain NOTHING whatsoever from getting mixed up in that mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    So you wouldn't have helped Britain in 1940 when she stood alone and outgunned against the Nazi onslaught.
    As long as they pay for everything they take?
    Sure.
    Again...not our problem.
    Germany was no risk whatsoever to America as it's Navy was pathetic.


    Your posting history is identical to Marjorie Taylor Green: Ukraine should just give up because it's inevitable they will lose, and it's pointless for them to fight.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...67#post5011267

    From the perspective of most Ukrainians citizens, there is no distinction between that, and asking them to submit and surrender.
    I will ask again...where did I say that Ukraine should surrender?

    Or are you too much of a coward to admit that you just made it up?


    If you were as honorable as you pretend to be?
    You would at least admit that you made up that I said that Ukraine should surrender.


    But you are proving to us all that you are not honorable.
    You are just a virtue signaling troll.
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    Racist US system wants to cover up historical crimes committed by ruling interests: Journalist

    The racist US system wants to cover up the historical crimes committed by the ruling interests of the country, according to an African American journalist and political analyst.

    Some US educators' proposal to use "involuntary relocation" instead of slavery to avoid upsetting school students has been rejected.

    The Texas State Board of Education on Thursday rejected the request by a workgroup of educators, who had proposed referring to slavery as “involuntary relocation” in second-grade classrooms, to reconsider their proposal.

    https://www.presstv.co.uk/Detail/202...es--Journalist


    New American ' ethnicity ' ?

    Forget it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    USSR/Russia- interchangeable in this context, you posturing twat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No, it's not interchangeable. Soviet does not mean Russian. The Soviet Union was comprised of 15 republics. It is an insult to many Belarusians and Ukrainians to say Russians were responsible for winning WW2.

    Russia Monopolises WWII Victory at the Expense of Belarusians and Ukrainians

    Moscow monopolises the Soviet WWII narrative for propaganda purposes at home and abroad. Russia's attempts to monopolise the Soviets' victory has been met with very little resistance in the West.

    Today the Russian authorities exploit the Soviet victory in the war against Nazi Germany and neglect the fact that the war touched just a very small part of Russia.

    Even now, two decades after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it is common to hear or read in Russia and in the West the western territories of the USSR being called “Russian.

    The Great Patriotic War: Fought in Belarus and Ukraine:

    The non-Russian populace from the Soviet Union, however, contributed at least as much as the Russians to the war, especially the Eastern Slavic nations of Belarus and Ukraine. The war waged primarily on Belarusian and Ukrainian lands and barely touched Russia proper.

    Many of the bloodiest episodes of the war – stagnate front lines, guerrilla warfare and counterinsurgency – also primarily took place in Belarus and Ukraine.


    https://belarusdigest.com/story/russ...nd-ukrainians/


    https://belarusdigest.com/story/why-...ar-ii-history/

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    Most Democrats Say They’d Flee, Not Fight, a Ukraine-Style Invasion


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/home-of...nt-11646929607
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    well it's their land and their pulverization.. have at it.. no peace talks today
    Your defense of Putin and Mother Russia, regardless of who is murdered and/or invaded, is astounding comrade Dookie.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    I think that the Ukraine War is NONE of America's business.

    And I want NO taxpayer money/arms going towards it.


    I will ask again...where did I say that Ukraine should surrender?
    I fine with supplying Ukraine with weapons to kill the Russian invaders.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Today the Russian authorities exploit the Soviet victory in the war against Nazi Germany and neglect the fact that the war touched just a very small part of Russia.

    Get lost;

    Casualties - The Battle of Stalingrad casualties Germany lost around 150,000 people and 90,000 taken prisoners. The Soviet Union lost around 400,000 people

    https://battleofstalingradwwii.weebl...asualties.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Get lost;

    Casualties - The Battle of Stalingrad casualties Germany lost around 150,000 people and 90,000 taken prisoners. The Soviet Union lost around 400,000 people

    https://battleofstalingradwwii.weebl...asualties.html
    Good, now I have got you even correcting yourself by using the word Soviet, rather than inserting Russian as an equivalent term.

    My work here is done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Russia Monopolises WWII Victory at the Expense of Belarusians and Ukrainians

    Moscow monopolises the Soviet WWII narrative for propaganda purposes at home and abroad. Russia's attempts to monopolise the Soviets' victory has been met with very little resistance in the West.

    Today the Russian authorities exploit the Soviet victory in the war against Nazi Germany and neglect the fact that the war touched just a very small part of Russia.

    Even now, two decades after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it is common to hear or read in Russia and in the West the western territories of the USSR being called “Russian.

    The Great Patriotic War: Fought in Belarus and Ukraine:

    The non-Russian populace from the Soviet Union, however, contributed at least as much as the Russians to the war, especially the Eastern Slavic nations of Belarus and Ukraine. The war waged primarily on Belarusian and Ukrainian lands and barely touched Russia proper.

    Many of the bloodiest episodes of the war – stagnate front lines, guerrilla warfare and counterinsurgency – also primarily took place in Belarus and Ukraine.


    https://belarusdigest.com/story/russ...nd-ukrainians/


    https://belarusdigest.com/story/why-...ar-ii-history/
    From what I have read, the Soviet Socialist Republics of Ukraine and Belorussia were awarded their own independent seats in the United Nations in 1948 in recognition that Belarus and Ukraine did as much as Russia in defeating the Nazis, and most of the sacrifices of the USSR actually occurred on the territories of the republics of Ukraine and Belorussia.

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