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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
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    You maybe think that Republican kids don't breathe, eh, dumbass.
    Richard Nixon had to use Executive Order to create the EPA ... because the Douchocrats who controlled congress wouldn't.
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    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    Fuck you asshole.
    You're not my type, LF, but if Charlize Theron becomes available, let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    CO2 Death cultists

    Climate Audit showing the logarithmic heating effect of carbon dioxide relative to atmospheric concentration:



    Science shows the decreasing effect of CO2. Each molecule of CO2 has less effect than the previous one.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/...arbon-dioxide/
    “What’s up with that?”

    As I said, now we’re going to get the arguments and “proof” from obscure weathermen and contrarian professors, usually secretly funded by the fossil fuel industries, that supposedly prove that climate change is a hoax, a fabrication, all in the hopes of selling a false paradigm, which obviously the above posters have swallowed

    And the “big chiwawa” doesn’t disappoint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It's good all around.

    The FAA can no longer pick and choose companies to succeed in building aircraft components.
    The FCC can no longer just pick and choose who gets station licenses.
    The NEA can no longer threaten local schools that refuse to teach the WOKE religion.
    The EPA can no longer just pick and choose what gases are 'pollutants', set limits on them (despite the fact that it can't be measured), or pick and choose 'solutions' that must be implemented, or else.
    The BATF can no longer just pick and choose what gun is 'illegal' on a whim.

    At the very least, it falls back to Congress, which must take the political heat and risk their re-election to implement such laws.

    That's assuming, of course, that no one challenges these laws as unconstitutional in the first place (which they are!).
    And Congress has proven to be so good at addressing emergency situations

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And Congress has proven to be so good at addressing emergency situations
    it's their purview -fist they have to agree CO2 is an "emergency situation"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Well, this was certainly predictable by Democrats! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    It is YOU trying to present arguments and 'proof' from obscure weathermen! It is YOU that denies science AND mathematics! It is YOU that somehow believes fossils actually burn and we use them for fuel!! It is YOU that tries to invoke God in order to curse Him.

    Now for the science you discard:

    1st law of thermodynamics: E(t+1) = E(t) - U where 'E' is energy, 't' is time, and 'U' is work (force over distance). In other words, no gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You cannot make energy out of nothing!

    2nd law of thermodynamics: e(t+1) >= e(t) where 'e' is entropy (the randomness of a system) and 't' is time. In other words, no gas or vapor has the capability to reduce entropy...ever. You cannot trap heat. You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.

    Stefan-Boltzmann law: r = C*e*t^4 where 'r' is radiance in watts per square area, 'C' is a natural constant, 'e' is a measured constant denoting the efficiency of a surface to radiate light, and 't' is temperature in Deg K. In other words, you cannot trap light. You cannot stop thermal energy from being converted into electromagnetic energy (light). The higher the temperature, the MORE LIGHT radiated, NOT LESS.

    You deny and discard these three theories of science. They do not discuss fossils and have nothing to do with fossils.

    Climate has no value associated with it. It cannot change. A desert climate is always a desert climate. A marine climate is always a marine climate. Climate has no temperature, humidity, wind direction of speed, pressure, area, location, etc. It cannot change.

    You deny mathematics too. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth nor the global atmospheric CO2 concentration. The reason is the requirements for performing a statistical summary that you just discard because they are in your way.
    One of the first requirements is that raw, unbiased data MUST be made available. It isn't. One of the most important characteristics of ANY statistical summary is that they do not predict anything. This is due to the use of random numbers in the summary process, both to calculate the averages and again to calculate the margin of error value.

    This isn't made up shit, dude. YOU and the entire Church of Global Warming simply deny these theories of science and statistical mathematics.

    'Climate change' is a meaningless buzzword. So is 'global warming'. No starting or ending point is ever specified for a delta value. No unbiased raw has ever been made available. YOU CANNOT PREDICT WITH STATISTICAL MATH!

    And another falls right in line

    As far as Science, I’ll go with those who put a man on the moon, and the ninety percent of other climate scientists rather than something copied and pasted off of another bloggers website

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
    https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
    https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/
    https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
    https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    it's their purview -fist they have to agree CO2 is an "emergency situation"
    “agree” is the problem, regional, political, personal differences and prejudices, predicates they cannot agree on anything important, or as LBJ put it, “they couldn’t pour piss out of a boot if they were holding it by the heel”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Supreme Court handed down another blow to Democrats, ruling that alphabet agencies like the EPA cannot just arbitrarily make law, such as regulating the emission of a gas.

    Rolling Stone Magazine described it as "The Supreme Court rules 6-3 that the planet should burn."

    Democrat reaction was predictable. Run around in circles screaming, "Fire! Fire!", in a perfectly hilarious clown show.
    Awesome, now I can breathe freely again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    So let's just continue with the SOS....making little band-aid concessions because true changes would make us fall behind other countries in production, etc.
    What concessions??????!? Why would we want to fall behind other countries economically for religious reasons??????????!?
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Thing is, you can't breathe money, or eat it, or drink it. You can't build a shelter against adverse weather with it either.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Who is suggesting that you breath money or drink it?????????!? You just try to build a house without money, dude!
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    I'm officially old, so chances are when things really start getting bad, I'll be dead.
    What do you care? You'll be dead!
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    I feel bad for the twenty somethings and younger folk that will inherit the earth that our right wing wonk and corporate flunkies will create.
    You feel sorry that twenty somethings have the ability to buy products and services from various corporations???!???? Why???????!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    I find it fascinating that all the corporate flunkies and right wing wonks are so happy with the latest SCOTUS ruling, and bleat that if you don't like it, elect a gov't that will legally change it (i.e. the legislative).
    So you don't want elections. You don't want people voting for the government they want. You want government by fiat and dictat. You want an oligarchy. You want to discard the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

    You just revealed your hand, dude.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    These are the people who screamed bloody murder when Obamacare was legally passed,
    It wasn't legally passed. It violates the Constitution of the United States. The government has NO authority to manipulate or commandeer the health insurance market.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    and the GOP didn't have the votes (despite numerous attempts) to reverse it,
    It wasn't legally passed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    and the SCOTUS deemed it legal and above board.
    SCOTUS does not have authority to change the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    How times change. Just saying.
    Indeed. Now that SCOTUS is actually conforming to the Constitution here and there, you are livid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night
    The FAA can no longer pick and choose companies to succeed in building aircraft components.
    The FCC can no longer just pick and choose who gets station licenses.
    The NEA can no longer threaten local schools that refuse to teach the WOKE religion.
    The EPA can no longer just pick and choose what gases are 'pollutants', set limits on them (despite the fact that it can't be measured), or pick and choose 'solutions' that must be implemented, or else.
    The BATF can no longer just pick and choose what gun is 'illegal' on a whim.
    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And Congress has proven to be so good at addressing emergency situations
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Which of these are emergency situations????????!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    it's their purview -fist they have to agree CO2 is an "emergency situation"
    Well...Congress has discarded science before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    This is a victory for suffocation in our own greenhouse gasses.

    Wooohoo
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What suffocation???????!? No gas or vapor is capable of increasing the temperature of the Earth, dude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    They're just a bunch of right wing children running over our democracy - just because they can. This has to stop.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! There is no democracy! Do you STILL think using this buzzword to describe The Oligarchy you support is going to WORK?????????!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    So let's get this right.... They are able to dump toxic waste, making children sick?
    What toxic waste???????!? Who are 'they'?????????!? Void argument fallacy!
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