AProudLefty (06-29-2022), Cypress (06-30-2022), LurchAddams (06-29-2022), PoliTalker (06-29-2022), ThatOwlWoman (06-30-2022)
Trump and Engel have also both corroborated the thrust of Hutchinson's testimony.
Trump told The Washington Post in April that he had wanted to accompany his supporters to the Capitol on Jan. 6, but the "Secret Service said I couldn't go. I would have gone there in a minute." Engel testified to the Jan. 6 committee that he and Trump had disagreed about going to the Capitol and he had steered them to the White House instead
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-secret-...055514901.html
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What Donald Trump Limo Video on Jan. 6 Reveals
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...hinson-1720126
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
“If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."
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AProudLefty (06-29-2022), LurchAddams (06-29-2022)
Ornato told her that when security declined to bring Trump to the Capitol, the former president allegedly grabbed at the steering wheel of the vehicle transporting him.
"Today's testimony makes clear that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol with the armed mob, despite warnings not to do so from his advisors," the January 6 Committee Twitter page captioned their video.
"When the Secret Service ruled out the possibility, the former President erupted in anger in the Suburban he was riding in."
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
“If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."
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LurchAddams (06-29-2022)
Oh, no! What's this? But all our right-wing nuts have been attacking her for 2 days? You're saying now it's true again? OMG
The truth is, that Cassidy woman has more balls than that Tony or Meadows or any of the men if the former administration combined.
Let them testify if they've got something to tell. We'd love to hear from them.
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Guno צְבִי (06-29-2022)
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There will come a day where Donald Trump is gone, but the dishonor of those who carried his water will remain.
AProudLefty (06-29-2022), Guno צְבִי (06-29-2022)
I just watched the testimony again. 90% of the segment has to do with trump's anger at the SS because they wouldn't drive him to the Capitol.
As she tells it, she had just gotten back to the WH and saw Ornato in the hall. He motioned her into his office where Engel was sitting...visibly shaken. That's when the story was shared with her. Literal moments after it happened.
Ornato was also declared the (controversial) 'deputy chief of staff of operations' in 2020. He has challenged sworn testimony re. trump in the past. Of course he will lie now in the press.
We'll see what he says under oath.
There is no getting around the fact that trump became enraged in the vehicle. He wanted to lead the terrorist attack that he had plotted for months.
The specifics, more than 1 1/2 years after the event, are inconsequential. trump was pissed that the couldn't join the armed terrorists.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
AProudLefty (06-29-2022), Guno צְבִי (06-29-2022), LurchAddams (06-29-2022)
Hello guno,
Sounds like she was telling the truth...
Cassidy Hutchinson: "WHEN I RETURNED TO THE WHITE HOUSE, I WALKED UP TOWARD THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S OFFICE AND I NOTICED HIM LINGERING OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICE, ONCE WE MADE EYE CONTACT, HE QUICKLY WAVED ME TO GO INTO HIS OFFICE JUST ACROSS THE HALL FROM MINE. WHEN I WENT IN, HE SHUT THE DOOR. I NOTICED THE HEAD OF MR. TRUMP'S SECURITY DETAIL SITTING IN A CHAIR, LOOKING SOMEWHAT DISCOMBOBULATED, A LITTLE LOST. I LOOKED AT TONY, HE SAID, DID YOU HEAR WHAT HAPPENED? I SAID, NO, TONY, I JUST GOT BACK, WHAT HAPPENED? TONY PROCEEDED TO TELL ME THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT GOT IN, HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE OFF THE RECORD MOVEMENT TO THE CAPITOL WAS STILL POSSIBLE AND LIKELY TO HAPPEN. BUT THAT HE HAD MORE INFORMATION. AS THE PRESIDENT HAD GOTTEN INTO THE VEHICLE WITH BOBBY, HE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING UP TO THE CAPITOL WHEN BOBBY RELATE TO HIM THAT WE ARE NOT, WE DO HAVE THE ASSETS TO DO IT, IT IS NOT SECURE, WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE WEST WING, THE PRESIDENT HAD A VERY STRONG AND VERY ANGRY RESPONSE TO THAT. TONY DESCRIBED HIM AS BEING IRATE. THE PRESIDENT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF "I AM THE F'IN PRESIDENT, TAKE ME UP TO THE CAPITOL NOW," TO WHICH BOBBY REPLIED, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE WEST WING. THE PRESIDENT REACHED UP TO THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE TO GRAB AT THE STEERING WHEEL. MR. ENGELS GRABBED HIS ARM, SAID, SIR, YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR HAND OFF THE STEERING WHEEL, WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE WEST WING, WE ARE NOT GOING TO THE CAPITOL." MR. TRUMP THEN USED HIS FREE HAND TO LAUNCH TOWARD BOBBY ENGEL, WHEN TONY RECOUNTED THE STORY TOWARDS ME, HE AIMED TOWARD HIS CLAVICLE. "
Liz Cheney: WAS MR. ENGEL IN THE ROOM WHEN HE WAS TELLING THE STORY?
Cassidy Hutchinson: HE WAS.
Cheney: DID HE DISAGREE WITH ANY PART OF THE STORY?
Hutchinson: HE DID NOT CORRECT OR DISAGREE WITH ANY PART OF HIS STORY.
Cheney: DID THEY EVER ACT ON THAT AND TELL YOU THAT WHAT HE HAD JUST SAID WAS UNTRUE?
Hutchinson: NEITHER OF THEM TOLD ME EVER THAT IT WAS UNTRUE.
CSPAN transcript of Hearing 6
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