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    Are we still on Steering Wheel-gate?

    Right wingers are dumb motherfuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Repeating conversations is the literal definition of hearsay. If any portion of the story has, "And then they said" it is hearsay. Quite literally. Not figuratively.
    ROTFLFMAO!!!! So every bit of testimony ever given is hearsay. Thanks, genius. No, that is NOT hearsay. Good God, you didn't know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Repeating conversations is the literal definition of hearsay. If any portion of the story has, "And then they said" it is hearsay. Quite literally. Not figuratively.
    Not if the testimony is ABOUT what was said in the conversation.

    That is not "hearsay." My goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    ROTFLFMAO!!!! So every bit of testimony ever given is hearsay. Thanks, genius. No, that is NOT hearsay. Good God, you didn't know that?
    Still nonsense. "And then I saw" is not hearsay. "And then he told me he saw" is. If you are telling me about anything anyone else has said, that is hearsay (note compound word meaning repeating what you heard)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Not if the testimony is ABOUT what was said in the conversation.

    That is not "hearsay." My goodness.
    If it is about what someone else said it is hearsay. No matter how much you want it to be different. Any sentence that includes, 'They told me" or "They said" is literally hearsay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If it is about what someone else said it is hearsay.
    And most of the testimony was NOT that.

    You didn't watch. Or if you did, you didn't really pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Still nonsense. "And then I saw" is not hearsay. "And then he told me he saw" is. If you are telling me about anything anyone else has said, that is hearsay (note compound word meaning repeating what you heard)....
    That's not what you said. And as expected you did not answer the question honestly. So let's try again.

    When Hutchinson says that Cippilone told her not to let Trump go to the Capitol, and Hutchinson relates that conversation under oath, is that hearsay? Yes or No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    That's not what you said. And as expected you did not answer the question honestly. So let's try again.

    When Hutchinson says that Cippilone told her not to let Trump go to the Capitol, and Hutchinson relates that conversation under oath, is that hearsay? Yes or No?
    If she said Cippilone said <insert anything at all here> it is hearsay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If she said Cippilone said <insert anything at all here> it is hearsay.
    OMFG, you are kidding me. No it isn't. You obviously don't understand what hearsay is. Just remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If she said Cippilone said <insert anything at all here> it is hearsay.

    "She told me"... anything that follows is hearsay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    OMFG, you are kidding me. No it isn't. You obviously don't understand what hearsay is. Just remarkable.
    Says the guy who thinks a story repeating what the valet said is "evidence" of something and not hearsay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Tony Ornato denies telling Cassidy Hutchinson that the former president grabbed the steering wheel or an agent on his detail.
    So it's beyond the realm of the right-wing mentality (for lack of a better word) that maybe this guy is either still a dedicated Trump supporter - OR - he's concerned about his future career prospects.

    Either way, it's no surprise that right wingers, who are known for their hatred and disrespect for women, would immediately assume his version of the story over hers.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Adam Schiff said Hutchinson was a very reliable witness. She consistently and explicitly stated when she was describing what she saw or heard from describing what someone told her.
    Right wingers are lying about her testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If it is about what someone else said it is hearsay. No matter how much you want it to be different. Any sentence that includes, 'They told me" or "They said" is literally hearsay.
    No it is not. Just stop. You are making a fool of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Adam Schiff said Hutchinson was a very reliable witness. She consistently and explicitly stated when she was describing what she saw or heard from describing what someone told her.
    Right wingers are lying about her testimony.
    She was totally credible.

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