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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I don’t follow your logic. You’re saying they can take away abortion but then saying some rights (abortion) shouldn’t be left up to mob rule. How those two things coexist?
    Two separate points one saying the Supreme Court could have issued a ruling saying that abortion did not fall within the Right to Privacy, because it involved a second life. That would have preserved out right to privacy on other issues.

    The second desperate point is calling out their hypocrisy in that they claim we have a right to carry handguns on the street, even though they are not mentioned in the Constitution, yet we can’t have a right to abortion because it’s not mentioned in the constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    the federal government decided, in 1972, to take away the right to life that every unborn child up until that point........today the courts finally took that power away from the federal government.....hopefully all states will eventually realize that killing our children is an abomination, not a right.......
    They could have taken the right to abortion without taking our right to make personal decisions about our lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I know, right?.....a million dead children a year......no big deal, right?.....I mean its not like menthol cigarettes or something important......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    its amazing that a so-called lawyer doesnt understand the law any better than this.
    I’ll offer an an analogy (and please don’t think I’m comparing Jarod to Krugman regarding smarts.)

    Paul Krugman won a Nobel Prize for his work on international trade. In that regard the man is brilliant. But when you read his NYT column he transforms into a partisan hack and some of the economic stuff he spouts even he knows is wrong/doesn’t believe but yet he says it anyway because he’s not writing as an economist but rather a partisan.

    Point being, partisanship can make otherwise smart people stupid (and that includes right and left)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    a right to privacy does not mean you have a right to kill your children......
    The Supreme Court Could have said that today, instead they simply said you have no right to privacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niche Political Commentor View Post
    I am a strong supporter of states rights yes, however our constitution does recognize (note: not grant) certain inalienable, natural rights that pre-exist any government. Abortion is not one of those rights, clearly.
    I’m a strong supporter of individual rights and they took a huge hit today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m a strong supporter of individual rights and they took a huge hit today.
    Did you celebrate the gun ruling which would be considered a victory for individual rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m a strong supporter of individual rights and they took a huge hit today.
    Not to derail the thread but from an individual rights perspective what was your take on government forcing people to be vaccinated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Not to derail the thread but from an individual rights perspective what was your take on government forcing people to be vaccinated?
    Nobody was forced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Nobody was forced.
    They were given ultimatums; jab or job. Coercion for an unwanted bodily intrusion. A violation of human rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It’s actually the right to Privacy, which was much larger than abortion. It was the right to make basic personal decisions that most directly affect who we as individuals are.

    The conservatives could easily have left that right alone and carved Abortion out of it. Instead these guys took it away giving the government the power to once again regulate access to birth control, who we can marry and any other number of personal decisions.

    They took power away from individuals and gave it to the government.
    Please show us all where the right to kill the unborn is listed in the Constitution...
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Please show us all where the right to kill the unborn is listed in the Constitution...
    Please show me where I said it was, dumb shit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Not to derail the thread but from an individual rights perspective what was your take on government forcing people to be vaccinated?
    My take is that nobody was forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    They were given ultimatums; jab or job. Coercion for an unwanted bodily intrusion. A violation of human rights.
    Take it up to the companies and OSHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Did you celebrate the gun ruling which would be considered a victory for individual rights?
    I did not oppose it, I do believe there should be limits to individual rights, but only when they conflict with more significant rights.
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