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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Im a libertarian. I take privacy rights to heart, and that includes anything to do with my body.
    I fully support "my body my choice"
    but the decision was only for the implied right to privacy, which is not in the Constitution
    It was right in the Alito decision
    Agreed. And, the "keep your hands off my body" argument was not taken way by Dobbs because Roe allowed the states to control a woman's body. States could regulate abortion (method, waiting period, parental consent) during the second trimester and could prohibit abortion during the third trimester. If a state can prohibit abortion the third trimester it is still controlling a woman's body and forcing her to carry the child to term.

    I prefer my state keep abortion legal, but nothing in the Constitution specifies a right to privacy. Our rights are enumerated in amendments 1-8 and the 9th (like the 10th) is a statement of principle and contains no specific rights.

    The Supreme Court has no power to make up rights they think should be included in the 9th.

    The same thing applies to the NY gun control law. The 2nd amendment and all other other rights in the Bill of Rights were meant to restrict only the federal government and not the states and that interpretation was accepted until 1925. To say the 14th amendment due process clause makes those rights applicable to the states was as farfetched a decision as Roe. I like the results because it expands our freedoms, but it is not good constitutional law. The 2nd amendment was not applied to the states until 2010 and prevents the states from passing its own gun regulations if the SC objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    I am beginning to believe that posters of the ilk of Jarod just don't want to admit that this ruling does not ban abortion. It clearly states that there was never an enumerated Constitutional right to abortion (the murder of an unborn child).
    True.

    Can a state prohibit a parent from sending his child to private/religious school? If not, what right does that violate. The court said that state violates our right to privacy. If there is not right to privacy then it does not protect abortion, sending children to private school, or forcing a person to undergo a medical procedure because all these were struck down based on the privacy right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
    Thank you. Your own map shows the hyperbolic buffoons buying democrats manufactured hysteria have nothing to worry about if they want an abortion.
    Nice deflection. My map shows that a bunch of red states have the same abortion policies as CA, which you claim is number one in easy abortion access.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Because my ruling would not ban assault weapons, stupid. You just don't get how the courts work at all. The court would hear a case about banning assault weapons if a state did so. Which it has. And those bans have been upheld. But they are upheld on very narrow grounds. If they were upheld on the grounds that the 2nd only applied to militias, that would be the equivalent of what just happened.
    Your words post #606:

    "It would be like banning assault weapons AND stating that you are doing so because the second amendment doesn't apply to private citizens"

    Once again for those who can't deal with reality this decision says nothing about the legality of abortion. It merely says the previous court overstepped it's authority. Even Ruth saw this coming and said RW was flawed law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Nice deflection. My map shows that a bunch of red states have the same abortion policies as CA, which you claim is number one in easy abortion access.
    I made no such claim. My point was states can make any abortion laws they want. Sorry if my mocking California confused you but yes your map proves this ruling did not make abortion illegal or even difficult to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So, your employer chose not to offer the plan, It was not Obamacare, I understand, thanks for telling the truth.
    can't read either dumbfuck, off yourself
    Doc Dutch finally admits he is a steaming pile of chickenshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You know it's not like getting a manicure. 22 to 24 weeks is the height legal time to have an abortion in California, just like a bunch of other states. Note how many states' laws are more liberal than CA's. The bright green states have virtually no restrictions.




    Color-coded map showing the legality of elective abortion in the United States as of June 2022

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aborti...tates_by_state
    How typical of Wikipedia to get it wrong again. No, this map is NOT correct.
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    Pedo Don is also a traitor....and a dish-thrower.

    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No, she doesn't. Evil, oppressive assholes stripping rights from Americans should be wary.
    You are describing those you support...Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Not my point you idiot.

    Like I pointed out, the S.Ct could have said that but leave the right to Privacy intact, they did not, they invalidated the entire right to Privacy.
    Paradox. Irrational. Which is it, dude?

    Hint: Read the Constitution of the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Sybil is insane. Read his signature link for the evidence.
    I realize you already think your hallucination is insane. Perhaps a reflection on yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You are describing those you support...Democrats.
    You're free to lie all you want, Sybil. I know you're a psycho and you know you're a psycho....all three of you.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I realize you already think your hallucination is insane. Perhaps a reflection on yourself.
    File a report...again, psycho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    How did Obamacare take away your right?
    I understand companies chose to stop offering your policy, or your doctor chose to stop accepting it, but how did Obamacare take away your right to it?
    Through government manipulation of markets (fascism), and through attempting to own the market (communism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I have no idea what you are ranting about with "experimental medical procedure".

    Regardless, it goes against traditional American ideals to strip freedoms from Americans. May Karma strike them hard.
    Going to try to play dumb, eh? You don't need to bother. I already know you are dumb.
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