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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
    Not 3 months old so not relavant.


    "Month Three of Pregnancy

    By the end of the third month of pregnancy, your baby is fully formed. Your baby has arms, hands, fingers, feet, and toes and can open and close its fists and mouth. Fingernails and toenails are beginning to develop and the external ears are formed. The beginnings of teeth are forming."
    Ever here of a "pre-mature" birth? Do a little research as to when they occur and what are the chances of them surviving WITH AND WITHOUT a LOT of emergency medical technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m in support of a ban after 3 months, with an exception for the life of the mother or an already dead or dying fetus.
    There are other reasons, and premature births don't always survive even with all the emergency medical technology available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Why do you think the state has any more power than the feds to regulate what a woman does with her own body?
    Feds would be fine as in the legislative of not judicial branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    How can you "give back" something that was never taken away? Roe vs. Wade GAVE WOMEN IN ALL 50 STATES THE RIGHT TO A MEDICAL ABORTION BY A CERTIFIED DOCTOR. Your last sentence is pure double talk, because essentially YOU and A MINORITY are enforcing YOUR PERSONAL BELIEFS ON THE MOST PERSONAL OF DECISIONS OF OTHERS. Gerry-mandering and voter suppression by the GOP is under the gun, and in the not-too-distant future those "elected officials" may not be so, because poll after poll shows the majority of Americans favor CHOICE in this matter. Theocracy does what you and the current SCOTUS are doing. Kind of anti-American, that.
    Yes the right of the people to decide abortion laws was taken away by RW. Now the people through their elected representatives will decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    If your first sentence were true, then were are the death certificates? When a murder occurs, the State or County M.E. office does the examination and fills out the certificate....that certificate requires a DATE OF BIRTH. So, spare me all the rest of your babbling and produce those certificates ... if you can't, then you're just another clown passing religious dogma and philosophy as medical scientific facts.
    Something for you to consider.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
    Yes the right of the people to decide abortion laws was taken away by RW. Now the people through their elected representatives will decide.
    Yes, we now have less rights and government has more.
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    18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
    44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.


    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Let's take it to the streets and tear it all apart.

    This republic has outlived its usefulness. It's nothing but a dumpster fire now.

    Time to try something else.

    Middle American and the deep south can't be part of the same country as civilized places.
    We clearly proven that now.

    What more do people need to see?
    War mongering. Sedition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Which of these, if either, is a "person"? It's okay if you don't know or refuse to answer because the answer is obvious to anyone who isn't sucking Pedo Don's cock.

    Both are babies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Why do you think the state has any more power than the feds to regulate what a woman does with her own body?
    It isn't her own body. It's the offspring that is being killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    If your first sentence were true, then were are the death certificates? When a murder occurs, the State or County M.E. office does the examination and fills out the certificate....that certificate requires a DATE OF BIRTH. So, spare me all the rest of your babbling and produce those certificates ... if you can't, then you're just another clown passing religious dogma and philosophy as medical scientific facts.
    It does not require a date of birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Both are babies.
    First, wrong again, Sybil, but expected from you.

    Second, the Alt-Right douchebags are claiming only one should be illegal to destroy.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    How can you "give back" something that was never taken away? Roe vs. Wade GAVE WOMEN IN ALL 50 STATES THE RIGHT TO A MEDICAL ABORTION BY A CERTIFIED DOCTOR. Your last sentence is pure double talk, because essentially YOU and A MINORITY are enforcing YOUR PERSONAL BELIEFS ON THE MOST PERSONAL OF DECISIONS OF OTHERS. Gerry-mandering and voter suppression by the GOP is under the gun, and in the not-too-distant future those "elected officials" may not be so, because poll after poll shows the majority of Americans favor CHOICE in this matter. Theocracy does what you and the current SCOTUS are doing. Kind of anti-American, that.



    Yes the right of the people to decide abortion laws was taken away by RW. Now the people through their elected representatives will decide.
    Your first sentence is either a product of a lie or sheer ignorance. Time and again I ask you Christo-fascist flunkies to explain how Roe vs. Wade forced anyone to have an abortion? To date, you intellectually dishonest cowards can't/won't answer that question....you just keep squawking the propaganda. But as the SCOTUS decision shows, reason and logic are not necessary for a Christo-fascist agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It isn't her own body. It's the offspring that is being killed.
    it's both her body and her "offspring" (fetus is the medical term)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
    Something for you to consider.
    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    If your first sentence were true, then were are the death certificates? When a murder occurs, the State or County M.E. office does the examination and fills out the certificate....that certificate requires a DATE OF BIRTH. So, spare me all the rest of your babbling and produce those certificates ... if you can't, then you're just another clown passing religious dogma and philosophy as medical scientific facts.
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    bill (H.R. 503) to amend title 18, United States Code, and the
    Uniform Code of Military Justice to protect unborn children
    from assault and murder, and for other purposes, having
    considered the same, reports favorably thereon without
    amendment and recommends that the bill do pass. "


    https://www.congress.gov
    Unn-huh...and to date, there are a miniscule amount of case in the 50 states where a pregnant woman was murdered and the jury/judge decreed that the plaintive be charged with a double homicide. There has been NO case were a perpetrator assaulted a woman and caused a miscarriage, and then was charged with murder. If you can find such, let me know.

    And again, where is the death certificate for the "murdered baby"? Name, birth date, etc. You see, when dealing with the legal specifics, you can't get away with generics and supposition ... at least not until some of the right wing decisions of the SCOTUS as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    First, wrong again, Sybil, but expected from you.

    Second, the Alt-Right douchebags are claiming only one should be illegal to destroy.
    Sybil isn't here. I can't speak to your hallucination.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
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