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    Default Russia's plans are now 'doomed' as Putin 'awakens sleeping giant'

    Solidarity with Ukraine by European and Western nations show that Russian plans to win the war are "doomed," according to one military expert.

    The news comes as more weapons and supplies are reaching Ukrainian defence forces who are not only holding off Russian advances but now pushing them back. With Vladimir Putin’s forces now seemingly in stagnation in eastern Ukraine, the Kremlin’s dreams of a quick and effective “special operation” are fast becoming a nightmare.

    Taking to Twitter to argue why Russian plans are doomed, military expert Nicholas Drummond described some of the reasons military equipment and united support of Ukraine is proving so decisive.

    He wrote: “Scholz + Germany in partnership with Macron and France, Johnson and Britain, Biden and America, Morawiecki and Poland, and many others, show there is more that unites us than divides us.

    “Such solidarity with Ukraine suggests that Russian plans to subsume it are doomed.”

    “Today, Scholz expressing his commitment to Ukraine for as long as it needs Germany’s support is a clear admission that Putin will not be allowed to succeed in Ukraine.

    Germany has finally approved the supply of heavy weapons to Ukraine with supply of seven Panzerhaubitze 2000 Howitzer cannons, with France and The Netherlands also providing variants of the Howitzer to Ukraine, giving Kyiv a geographical advantage in defending key cities in the country.

    Many took the opportunity to criticize Berlin for its late reaction to helping Ukraine, yet this delay was commended by Mr Drummond who said: “Don’t criticise Germany for being late to the party.

    “After 1945, it wanted to become a country known for its economic strength, not its military might.

    “Putin has awakened a sleeping giant.”

    “Its industry has since set a global standard. It has been a fantastic European partner and deserves international respect.”

    “However, Olaf Scholz and his government had barely taken power when Russia invaded Ukraine.

    “To his great credit, he realised Germany had to change to meet the threat posed by such aggression.”

    Mr Drummond was also highly praising of Britain for its role in supplying Ukraine with much-needed weapons.

    He said: “I feel duty-bound to mention Ben Wallace in all this.

    “His early decision to send NLAW, Javelin and an enormous quantity of munitions to Ukraine set a great example and was crucial in the early stages of the conflict.

    “He has since worked to bind Europe and the USA together.”

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    As Gustave Le Bo lamented: “The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduces them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.”

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    Putin is toast, I'm truly amazed that he's lasted so long.
    As Gustave Le Bo lamented: “The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduces them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.”

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    He's in the toaster, hopefully, but he isn't done yet. According to the NYTimes and WAPO the Russians are making gains in the east and Ukraine is losing five hundred soldiers a day.
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    attrition .. who grinds up more of the other guy, and who has to sue for peace.
    But both seem erady to fight tothe "last man" -which is why talks are DESPERATELY needed

    I dont know if Ukraine can counterattack in the south, but Im pretty sure throwing back the Russians in Donbas is a tall order

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    He's in the toaster, hopefully, but he isn't done yet. According to the NYTimes and WAPO the Russians are making gains in the east and Ukraine is losing five hundred soldiers a day.
    The fat lady hasn't sung yet, fighting in the cities had slowed after Ukraine inflicted heavy losses on Russian forces. The Russians are reportedly using conscripts to fight in the region due to losing so many regular soldiers.
    As Gustave Le Bo lamented: “The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduces them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.”

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    I think they are gonna run out of Ukrainians for cannon fodder before they run of of Russians for the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    I think they are gonna run out of Ukrainians for cannon fodder before they run of of Russians for the same
    Not entirely convinced that's true, time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Not entirely convinced that's true, time will tell.
    im only going by published numbers of combatants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Putin is toast, I'm truly amazed that he's lasted so long.
    This is a great indication that you have failed to properly understand the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    I think they are gonna run out of Ukrainians for cannon fodder before they run of of Russians for the same
    Ukraine has a population of 43 million men and women are fighting to save their homeland. Russians are fighting for a power happy madman. Who do you think fights harder?
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    I think we should send the Ukraine missiles that will land on the Kremlin and tear Moscow a new asshole!

    Turnabout is fair play!

    Putin decimates the Ukraine- Bombing and Murdering 100's of thousands of innocent women and children and elderly- Destroying everything standing- The Ukraine retaliates and gives Russia a taste of their own medicine

    Meanwhile the Russians just sit there and don't stand up to Putin- their insane criminal autocrat TRUMPOCRAT! FUCK EM'! BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!

    I want to see Moscow in rubble now!
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    The new American howitzers and rockets out range the Russians and are more accurate. They will be a game changer. When the Russian artillery fires now the Ukrainians can fire back from protected positions. The Ukrainians will slowly destroy the Russian artillery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    The new American howitzers and rockets out range the Russians and are more accurate. They will be a game changer. When the Russian artillery fires now the Ukrainians can fire back from protected positions. The Ukrainians will slowly destroy the Russian artillery.
    Initially, almost everybody overrated the Russian military.

    Now I think there's a danger that conventional wisdom will underestimate them.

    The Russian military's strength has always been artillery. There is so much of it and they are capable of focusing such tremendous amounts of firepower I am not convinced a few dozen pieces of western artillery is going to change the game for the Ukranians. Once the Russians fortify themselves in Donbass they might be very difficult to drive out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Ukraine has a population of 43 million men and women are fighting to save their homeland. Russians are fighting for a power happy madman. Who do you think fights harder?
    You also dont get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    im only going by published numbers of combatants
    People are coming from all over the world to fight with the Ukrainians, doubt there are any doing the same with the Russians. It's an old adage, but true nonetheless, that you can win the battle but still lose the war.
    As Gustave Le Bo lamented: “The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduces them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.”

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