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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    And yet cops DID kill the shooter. The difference was those cops were better trained. If the shooter had a Glock 17 or similar gun he could have easily killed everyone in the room in under three minutes.
    No they didn't.
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    you fucking morons.............evince, you are the second biggest lying piece of shit here, right behind LV............

    I've spent YEARS posting all of this and you willfully ignored it like the leftist stooges you prove yourselves to be. Warren vs. DC was decided in 1981, not just this year, as that racist evince would have you believe.

    unless the whole lot of you are purposefully trying to revise history for politics, and in that case you are all treasonous fucks and deserve a traitors death, you should ignore your handlers brainwashing bullshit and read actual history
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A lot of people imagine they could be a courageous hero.

    Imagination and bluster are easy.

    Just like a lot of "Second Amendment solutions" blowhards stayed home with their bang-bangs on Jan 6 rather than answer Trump's alarmist call that the republic was in grave danger.

    In real time, in the fog of uncertainty, and not knowing any Intel about how many shooters were in the school building, I have serious doubts that any of the "good guys with guns" who post on this board would have
    actually courageously rushed into the Uvalde school.
    What we do know is that one unarmed mother did...

    My bet is, even if you are right about some of the folks on the board that many of them would have gone in there. Of course you assume that they are all just "keyboard warriors" not volunteer firefighters who regularly enter dangerous situations to protect others (I know that at least two of us are exactly that). This is something I doubt, it is likely that some of these folks volunteer to protect their community in some manner. It is also my guess is that if your kid was in there and the police waited over an hour to go into the school you would have been chomping at the bit to go in your damned self because they were not doing what you know was the right thing to do. You know that this police force was wrong to wait, we also know that their excuse that they "just couldn't get in there" was BS as that mother did.

    After Columbine police forces changed their policy on mass shooters and stopped assuming that it was a hostage situation, this "police force" was just a "bit" behind the times (by a couple good decades).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What we do know is that one unarmed mother did...

    My bet is, even if you are right about some of the folks on the board that many of them would have gone in there. Of course you assume that they are all just "keyboard warriors" not volunteer firefighters who regularly enter dangerous situations to protect others (I know that at least two of us are exactly that). This is something I doubt, it is likely that some of these folks volunteer to protect their community in some manner. It is also my guess is that if your kid was in there and the police waited over an hour to go into the school you would have been chomping at the bit to go in your damned self because they were not doing what you know was the right thing to do. You know that this police force was wrong to wait, we also know that their excuse that they "just couldn't get in there" was BS as that mother did.

    After Columbine police forces changed their policy on mass shooters and stopped assuming that it was a hostage situation, this "police force" was just a "bit" behind the times (by a couple good decades).
    It is real easy for anyone to imagine being a courageous hero from the safety of a keyboard.

    I didn't mention anything about the parental instinct to protect their children.

    I was writing about gun huggers on this forum and whether they would have rushed into the Uvalde school with their bang bangs in real time, and in the fog of uncertainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    All they care about are protecting themselves.

    That's why none of them confronted the Uvalde shooter.

    It sure seemed like they were doing more to help the shooter than stop him.

    Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/p...o-protect.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    My bet is, even if you are right about some of the folks on the board that many of them would have gone in there. Of course you assume that they are all just "keyboard warriors" not volunteer firefighters who regularly enter dangerous situations to protect others (I know that at least two of us are exactly that).
    cypress has nothing but projection of his/her own cowardice. most on the left are like that because it's all they have. they know they are too cowardly to risk their lives, except maybe for their own kids.....just like that mother at uvalde. the left is trying to portray her as some superhero that didn't need a gun, but the truth is she was just as selfish as most of the other liberals here..............
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is real easy for anyone to imagine being a courageous hero from the safety of a keyboard.

    I didn't mention anything about the parental instinct to protect their children.

    I was writing about gun huggers on this forum and whether they would have rushed into the Uvalde school with their bang bangs in real time, and in the fog of uncertainty.
    and you assume that they are all blustering keyboard warriors because you project your own cowardice upon them. excuses and insults are all you have.
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
    “whenever you put your faith in big government for any reason, sooner or later you end up an apologist for mass murder.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'll wait for all the facts to come in before judging the cops in this. The media keeps spewing out false information which changes daily.
    Agreed on judging the police. Disagreed on your demonizing the "media". Hanlon's Razor applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    and you assume that they are all blustering keyboard warriors because you project your own cowardice upon them. excuses and insults are all you have.
    Results count. Not a single member of JPP attended Trump's rally much less attacked the Capitol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Results count. Not a single member of JPP attended Trump's rally much less attacked the Capitol.
    irrelevant and more stupid assed assumptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'll wait for all the facts to come in before judging the cops in this. The media keeps spewing out false information which changes daily.
    have you always been a led by the nose sheeple who needs government to tell them what to think?
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    irrelevant and more stupid assed assumptions
    Disagreed on relevancy. Facts matter and results count. Not a single JPP keyboard warrior went to DC on 1/6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Disagreed on relevancy. Facts matter and results count. Not a single JPP keyboard warrior went to DC on 1/6.
    you can disagree all you want, mr. wrong. it's irrelevant because you assume everyone at JPP is a keyboard warrior and some trump cultist........and then when asked to prove it, you ignore it and continue on with your inane bullshit. maybe YOU are just irrelevant. or maybe you're a keyboard warrior since you didn't go there either
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    have you always been a led by the nose sheeple who needs government to tell them what to think?
    I need actual facts before I decide what to think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    and you assume that they are all blustering keyboard warriors because you project your own cowardice upon them. excuses and insults are all you have.
    No, I don't believe in bragging about courage under fire from the safety of a keyboard, like you do.

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