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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolred44 View Post
    So as president you are absolutely unwilling to lay even a tiny amount of blame at his feet for saying and doing nothing? Right? Gotcha.
    No, twump deserves all the blame. twump not only sat there watching it all, but tweeted them to to get Pence while the traitors were in the building.

    twump was clearly trying to get Pence out of the way
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    Halfwit,

    Your childish insults prove my point.

    You hate the MAJORITY of Americans and believe they are stupid. The MAJORITY never supported trump.

    .......

    Let me clarify. Defending trump says way more about you than me. I am not talking policy i am talking the person and President.

    He started his political career with a lie about the legitimacy of President Obama.
    Do you defend that?

    He bragged about grabbing women, not his wife, and moving on her like a bitch.
    Do you defend that?

    He lied about the wife of Jeb Bush.
    Do you defend that?

    He refused to concede Iowa.
    Do ydefend that?

    Lied about Cruz and Rubio. Claiming, one couldn't be potus because of citizenship ship and the others dad was involved in assassinating JFK.
    Do you defend that?

    Teenage girl dressing rooms during miss America parents.
    Do you defend that?

    Lied about winning the popular vote in 2016.
    Do you defend that?

    Considering pardons for 1/6 insurrectionists.
    Do you defend that?

    Pressured Pence to change the election results.
    Do you defend that?

    Refused to attend the inauguration of President Biden and acknowledge his legitimacy as president.
    Do you defend that?

    Presured the AG (i think) of George to "find votes".
    Do you defend that?

    Cheated in his wife/wives.
    Do you defend that?

    Sides with men like Andrew Jackson and the Confederacy.
    Do you defend that?

    Gets advice from Fox News (Hannity, etc...)
    Do you defend that?

    I am consistent. I believe America deserves better. I voted for GW because of the Clinton scandals. I don't expect perfection but I do expect someone that I can tell my children to behave like, talk like, and be respectful like to be the president.

    I get it, you can do similar with many politicians but trump is different. He put himself above the country. You laugh at things like a portrait or attending an inauguration. It matters, especially to young people. We need more participation in our elections to ensure this country continues to get better. Striving for a, "more perfect union" should always be the goal.

    Again, I love and respect many conservatives and Republicans. I don't understand how good people can defend trump and claim to love this country.

    Have a good day! If it applies, Happy Father's Day!
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    Hello Whythink,

    Quote Originally Posted by Whythink View Post
    No, the danger is putting the behavior of trump above the country. This isn't political. The United States deserves and should demand a better person than trump for the presidency.

    Unfortunately, many fall for the partisanship. No Republican or Democrat should tolerate what trump has done to this country. I am not talking policy. I am talking about the lies meant to divide. The inability to participate in a peaceful transition of power. The unwillingness to hang a portrait of a former president.

    The majority of Americans, regardless of party, love this country. trump and his right wing media, is trying to convince people that isn't true.

    Oh, taking a shot at CNN considering what fox has become is laughable. The propaganda from right wing media makes Maddow "fair and balanced".

    I get being a conservative. I understand, love, and respect many Republicans. Supporting trump just doesn't make sense. He is a bad person. Dishonest to the core.

    Republican or Democrat, we the people deserve better. I just hope we are aware enough to demand better.
    Well said!

    Bravo!

    That is Americanism.

    Needed to be said.

    Thank you.

    Simply the moral standing of the man should be enough.

    Sad there are so many in this country who value politics over basic morals.
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    Hello Lurch,

    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    DeSantis is the Gov. The Feds would need to cooperate with the state to get twump. DeSantis can blockade airports if he wants to. He loves virtue signaling the MAGA's so it's easy for me to see this standoff happening.
    If the feds wanted to swoop, they will swoop and they will not wait for the State to bless it.

    But it won't matter anyway. DeSantis would have no problem with Trump getting taken out of the picture and opening up the presidency for him.

    All that power. Him. He must be practically drooling. He is power drunk.
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    Hello Coolred44,

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolred44 View Post
    Trump supporters have yet to give a coherent excuse as to why Trump waited so long to put out a tweet, get in front of a mic or in anyway calm that mob down when it was clear they were hurting cops and destroying govt property. I mean he was the president and they were there FOR HIM. Why wouldn't he say something to HIS people? Why wait until so much harm had been done and tweet out a bullshit "I love you but go home peacefully" blah blah horseshit statement?

    Why did he do nothing? Even if you believe, wrongly, that Pelosi was in charge of the Capitol Police...why didn't Trump attempt to do the bare minimum to calm the situation down? Especially knowing his VP was in there and the crowd was shouting HANG MIKE PENCE!

    If it had nothing to do with Trump, wasn't his plan or something he supported...why did he do NOTHING for 3 hours except watch it on tv and tweet out inflammatory tweets riling them up more?
    They never will.
    They'd snap their necks looking the other way.
    It's like answering the 'When was America great' question.

    Never gonna happen.

    They will not try to defend Trump from the indefensible. Why did he wait so long as the January 6th riot/insurrection/capitol attack carried on and on and on?
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    Democrats tried desperately to steal the 2020 election...and succeeded.

    But not in November, 2022.

    The Republicans and their lawyers will be watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Democrats tried desperately to steal the 2020 election...and succeeded.

    But not in November, 2022.

    The Republicans and their lawyers will be watching.
    There is NO evidence Democrats stole the election. Every allegation was looked into and thrown out - many were thrown out by judges twump appointed.

    We understand why you're raging. Your coup failed.

    Thank God for the Democrats exposing hour evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    The tragic humor is not lost on me. twump had several resources regarding how to address the election results in 2020. He went with the crazy drunk
    Because the drunk was saying all the things that trump wants to believe.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Republican congressmen were giving the Proud Boys tours of the closed Capitol building the on 1/5 so the could find and kill Pence.
    Yes. We all knew that since Jan., but now it's general knowledge.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yes. We all knew that since Jan., but now it's general knowledge.
    Even though we saw the video of the asshole given the tour and his threats to Pence and Pelosi afterwards, trolls claim the whole thing was non-violent because no one had guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Even though we saw the video of the asshole given the tour and his threats to Pence and Pelosi afterwards, trolls claim the whole thing was non-violent because no one had guns.
    Hmmm. I thought they were talking about the BLM protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yes it was. But this evidence bolsters the fact that the terrorist actions weren't some spur of the moment happening. It was carefully plotted by a number of people.

    That's criminal.
    where is the evidence Trump conspired with these unidentified "people"?......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    What are all the ways Trump tried to steal the 2020 election?

    -Tried to force States to adopt in-person voting only. (in a deadly pandemic with no vaccine yet.)
    ???....no one ever suggested "in person only" voting.......people objected to the rapid and illegal expansion of absentee voting into a morass of unregulated and (we now know) unconstitutional mass mailing, ballot harvesting drop boxes.......this country would be a better place right now if the House had spent a week looking at the voting process instead of spending a year and a half looking at 1/6........
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post

    CSPAN Day 3 of J6SC Hearings - Trump's pressure campaign to get Pence to break the law and steal the 2020 election for Trump.


    The J6SC is presenting convincing evidence that Trump broke the law and is guilty of seditious conspiracy.
    The only theft was by the Democrats in 2020.

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