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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Continued ignoring of the etymology of the word 'binary'.
    I'm not. Reread. I've specifically addressed that semantic argument. If you want to call the encoding system "binary," fine, but that means the algorithm that encodes sex is binary, not that there are only two outcomes for that algorithm. In the same way, the algorithms in your computer are binary, in the sense that every bit of information is either an "on" or an "off," but that doesn't mean the output of the algorithm is binary. It can encode infinite varieties of information, just as different combinations of X and Y can create more possibilities than just X and Y (X, Y, XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, etc.)

    Define the term "non-binary person".
    Sure: someone who identifies neither as male nor female.

    Identify and describe a gender other than male or female.
    Sure: non binary.

    Identify and describe a sex chromosome other than X or Y.
    Sure: Z and W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Everything


    Sex is also in the humans mind which is extremely complex


    You are just too stupid or stubborn to examine the entire reality of this issue


    Science has
    More random phrases. Obviously you are incapable of coherently responding to the OP, let alone following the rules within it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Einstein was abnormal too
    You very clearly don't understand how this thread works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    I'm not.
    Yes, you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Reread.
    No need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    I've specifically addressed that semantic argument.
    No, you keep ignoring the content and rules of the OP, as well as the etymology of several key words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    If you want to call the encoding system "binary," fine, but that means the algorithm that encodes sex is binary, not that there are only two outcomes for that algorithm.
    Already addressed ad nauseum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    In the same way, the algorithms in your computer are binary, in the sense that every bit of information is either an "on" or an "off," but that doesn't mean the output of the algorithm is binary. It can encode infinite varieties of information, just as different combinations of X and Y can create more possibilities than just X and Y (X, Y, XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, etc.)
    Learn what 'binary' means. Your "infinite varieties" tripe is completely irrelevant to the definition of a binary system for reasons already addressed ad nauseum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Sure: someone who identifies neither as male nor female.

    Sure: non binary.
    You have yet to identify nor describe to me a specific gender other than male or female, as my thread rules dictate that you do.

    All you have provided to me thus far is a listing of two specific genders (male and female) that this supposed third gender is not. You have yet to provide me with any sort of identification/description as to what this supposed third gender actually is.

    Why is this an issue? It is an issue because you are not actually saying anything that is meaningful to me. If I didn't know what a 'walk-in shower' was, would it be helpful to me if you were to define a 'walk-in shower' as "not a bath tub"? Of course not!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Sure: Z and W.
    Context error. This thread is specifically about HUMANS, not about animals such as birds that make use of the ZW system rather than the XY system that humans make use of (and that this thread is about).

    The ZW system, like the XY system, is a binary system (in which male = ZZ and female = ZW). In that particular system, males (instead of females) are the homogametic gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    You have yet to identify nor describe to me a specific gender other than male or female, as my thread rules dictate that you do.
    Incorrect, reread. "Non-binary."

    All you have provided to me thus far is a listing of two specific genders (male and female) that this supposed third gender is not. You have yet to provide me with any sort of identification/description as to what this supposed third gender actually is.
    Look, I get it: you're super insecure about your gender, and so the idea of acknowledging the category of "non-binary" makes you feel kind of funny in the bathing suit area. But your discomfort with the category doesn't erase its existence as a category.

    Why is this an issue? It is an issue because you are not actually saying anything that is meaningful to me. If I didn't know what a 'walk-in shower' was, would it be helpful to me if you were to define a 'walk-in shower' as "not a bath tub"? Of course not!
    I'm neither an extravert nor an introvert. I'm something in between. You can sob and shake your little fists at the heavens and curse me for not falling into your binary system, yet that fact will remain. And, in the same way, it remains for people who don't fall into the two gender categories you're willing to accept.

    Context error.
    You asked the question. I answered. If you'd like to move the goal posts now, whatever. But asked and answered.

    The ZW system, like the XY system, is a binary system (in which male = ZZ and female = ZW). In that particular system, males (instead of females) are the homogametic gender.
    I haven't studied it enough to be sure, but I expect not. I expect there are some that have combinations other than those two, just as there are with humans and the X and Y system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Incorrect, reread. "Non-binary."
    You have merely made up a word. You have yet to identify or describe it in any meaningful way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Look, I get it:
    Your posts indicate that you don't get much of anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    you're super insecure about your gender, and so the idea of acknowledging the category of "non-binary" makes you feel kind of funny in the bathing suit area. But your discomfort with the category doesn't erase its existence as a category.
    Attempted mockery and personal insults. Too bad those aren't valid forms of argumentation. Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    I'm neither an extravert nor an introvert. I'm something in between.
    Gender refers to one's anatomy, not one's behavior. False equivalence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    You can sob and shake your little fists at the heavens and curse me for not falling into your binary system, yet that fact will remain. And, in the same way, it remains for people who don't fall into the two gender categories you're willing to accept.
    It's not my system. You are the one who is sobbing and shaking your fists because you don't like science.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    You asked the question. I answered.
    You did not provide a valid answer, per my thread rules. Like I said in my prior response, you cannot define a word by listing a couple of things that the word is NOT. You must describe what the word IS. Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    If you'd like to move the goal posts now, whatever. But asked and answered.
    I haven't moved anything; stop lying through your teeth. See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    I haven't studied it enough to be sure, but I expect not. I expect there are some that have combinations other than those two, just as there are with humans and the X and Y system.
    Learn what a binary system is so that you don't continue to look like a blathering idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    And both are connected to a complex human mind


    Interesting you folks want minds zeroed out of the equation
    Imagination doesn't change science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    In about 1% of all births, babies have some form of ambiguous genitalia, such as a very large clitoris or very small penis. In more rare cases—between 0.1% and 0.2% of live births—genitalia is so ambiguous that medical specialists are brought in for a consultation.

    Yes, it's rare- BUT IT EXISTS!

    The problem children have is when they realize they are not normal.

    If you were a parent to one of these rare cases, you would probably understand the complexity of the issue and empathize with it yourself.

    All youth require the support and acceptance of their family, peers, and communities to thrive. Transgender and gender-nonconforming youth are no exception; their health and well-being is heavily influenced by the institutions and communities that surround them. Although youth who identify as a gender other than the one assigned to them at birth have among the highest rates of suicide, depression, and self-harm, a supportive and safe environment can significantly reduce these risks. Ensuring that transgender youth are referred to according to their identified genders, and with their chosen names, is a critical factor in establishing this type of environment.
    you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're an idiot.
    When you cannot defend your position- CALL THEM AN IDIOT!

    Brilliant!

    This is why you have TRUMPTARD STAMPED ACROSS YOUR FOREHEAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    When you cannot defend your position- CALL THEM AN IDIOT!

    Brilliant!
    we don't have to mislead children about gender to normalize trans for a small percent of freaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    we don't have to mislead children about gender to normalize trans for a small percent of freaks.
    That's all a part of your imagination! I don't know of anyone misleading children- expect the likes of people that are running with this conspiracy theory Fox News has used to inflame your weak vulnerable ignorant ass!

    Fox News just loves stupid weak-minded people like you! In fact their whole thrust and agenda depends on people like you who will believe everything they say without question or research so they can get your shit all hot and spurting out of control!

    This is all non-sense- AND YOU BELIEVE IN NON-SENSE!

    Typical Trumptard!
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    This thread still is useless, I have no urge to convince anyone of this. It doesn't matter if there is such a thing or if there isn't. Folks get to think and act differently than what you believe, even in things you think aren't "real".

    This is a bit like insisting you call a Priest something other than "Father" because they aren't your dad. It's something you can do, but it really is just useless activity for no reason other than you want folks to know you don't believe their religion. I get it, they aren't your dad.... Why should I pretend I care to convince you that you are in some way "wrong"?
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    That's all a part of your imagination! I don't know of anyone misleading children- expect the likes of people that are running with this conspiracy theory Fox News has used to inflame your weak vulnerable ignorant ass!

    Fox News just loves stupid weak-minded people like you! In fact their whole thrust and agenda depends on people like you who will believe everything they say without question or research so they can get your shit all hot and spurting out of control!

    This is all non-sense- AND YOU BELIEVE IN NON-SENSE!

    Typical Trumptard!
    it is normalizing trans for a small percentage of real trans.

    they're acutually pressuring normal kids into it with this much attention.

    getting kids to destroy their own genitals is a win for the nazi globalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    it is normalizing trans for a small percentage of real trans.

    they're acutually pressuring normal kids into it with this much attention.

    getting kids to destroy their own genitals is a win for the nazi globalists.
    Man I can deal with some of your comments- and even some of your legitimate concerns! But stop with the Global Nazi Bullshit! OK?

    Show me any child that was coaxed into having a sex-change operation! SHOW ME ANY KID THAT HAS HAD A SEX CHANGE OPERATION!

    Here your imagination has run away with itself again!

    Do you honestly believe that doctors are performing sex-operations on children?

    I don't believe it! I don't even believe there all that many sex-operations performed here in the US on consenting adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Man I can deal with some of your comments- and even some of your legitimate concerns! But stop with the Global Nazi Bullshit! OK?

    Show me any child that was coaxed into having a sex-change operation! SHOW ME ANY KID THAT HAS HAD A SEX CHANGE OPERATION!

    Here your imagination has run away with itself again!

    Do you honestly believe that doctors are performing sex-operations on children?

    I don't believe it! I don't even believe there all that many sex-operations performed here in the US on consenting adults.
    yes. how about puberty blockers, and sex operations. doctors are doing that.

    they're also ill.

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