Biden may send US special operations forces to protect US embassy in Kyiv

[Mina]

But you are correct. There is a double standard w/respect to our nation's tragedies.

Yep. Karachi is a great example. There were multiple attacks on our Karachi consulate in the Bush years. In June 2002, one of them killed 12 and injured 51 others. In 2002, another attack killed two and wounded five. In 2006 yet another deadly attack occurred just outside the consulate, targeting our diplomat, David Foy, and killing him along with three Pakistanis. Yet never once was there a Democratic witch-hunt focused on how to turn that into a partisan political win. It was treated as a national tragedy leading to a joint project to better secure our facilities, rather than treated as an opening for years of constant hearings to try to score political points. And you see that again and again and again, where Democrats react to these tragedies as if there will be a team effort to deal with the threat, while Republicans react to them with the glee of a "gotcha" moment to bring down their domestic rivals.

[Mina]

I dont GAF about "Bengazi"

Well, you're a rarity then, since most of the right-wingers I know online spent YEARS obsessing over that attack, in hopes that somehow it could be bent into a scandal that could be used against Clinton.

I bet you havent looked at Libya since then

You bet wrong.

[dukkha]

I never gave a damn about Bengazi!
My interest is keeping us out of expensive useless wars that degrade countries, or war with Russia
Ukraine is the next money pit (already is) and permanent war against Russia

[dukkha]

Well, you're a rarity then, since most of the right-wingers I know online spent YEARS obsessing over that attack, in hopes that somehow it could be bent into a scandal that could be used against Clinton.
You bet wrong.

so you know how the militas took over -despite Hillary insisting on"democracy" from the NTC, ISIS infested Libya and the civil war has wrecked the country.
All from regime change masquerading as a "no fly zone"

[Althea]

Yep. Karachi is a great example. There were multiple attacks on our Karachi consulate in the Bush years. In June 2002, one of them killed 12 and injured 51 others. In 2002, another attack killed two and wounded five. In 2006 yet another deadly attack occurred just outside the consulate, targeting our diplomat, David Foy, and killing him along with three Pakistanis. Yet never once was there a Democratic witch-hunt focused on how to turn that into a partisan political win. It was treated as a national tragedy leading to a joint project to better secure our facilities, rather than treated as an opening for years of constant hearings to try to score political points. And you see that again and again and again, where Democrats react to these tragedies as if there will be a team effort to deal with the threat, while Republicans react to them with the glee of a "gotcha" moment to bring down their domestic rivals.

They still abide by the Gingrich playbook of 'flinging shit' at every possible turn. It works.

[Althea]

Well, you're a rarity then, since most of the right-wingers I know online spent YEARS obsessing over that attack, in hopes that somehow it could be bent into a scandal that could be used against Clinton.



You bet wrong.

He's full of shit. If you had the time to peruse his history, every single hour of every single day was about Benghazi.

[anatta]

^Idiot thinks the "Libya news and interests" thread (buried somewhere in off topic) is about Bengazi
The search function doesnt work at all on this place, or i'd pull it up.

Pathetic lying to peoples faces and hiding behind confronting me -
just so it's clear he is a scurrilous coward as well as a liar. bottom dweller.

[LurchAddams]

For now, the embassy and its limited number of personnel are protected by State Department diplomatic security officials. The discussion centers around whether an increase in security is needed if the number of personnel increase, and whether special operations forces are best equipped to fulfill those requirements.

The Wall Street Journal first reported that special operations forces are being considered for embassy security.

US Marines typically guard US embassies around the world, but in Kyiv, for now, there is a general agreement that the typical Marine Corps embassy guard personnel may not be suited to the uncertain security picture in Ukraine without additional forces, officials say.

Last week, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said the Department of Defense was having conversations with the State Department about what their security requirements might look like.

“We are having that conversation with the State Department about what their security requirements might look like, but it’s ultimately up to the secretary of state to determine there or anywhere else around the world, how he wants to better secure and protect his diplomats, and if there’s a role we can play, then we will absolutely have that discussion with them,” Kirby said.

On Monday afternoon, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told a press conference at the Pentagon that talks about returning a small number of troops to Ukraine are “underway at a relatively low level.”

Those plans “have not made it to the Secretary or myself for that matter for refinement of courses of action and what’s needed,” Milley said. “At the end of the day any reintroduction of US forces into Ukraine would require a presidential decision,” he added.

The US doesn’t believe Russia would overtly attack the embassy. But the concern is that Russia air defenses or missiles could inadvertently target the compound and the situation could dramatically escalate the situation, officials say. US officials say Russia has a thorough understanding on an official basis that the US uses military personnel to guard its embassies around the world and any presence should not be viewed as escalatory. Still, an introduction of US forces into Ukraine could raise concerns that it could lead to a perception of US escalation since Biden has been adamant that US ground troops will not fight in Ukraine.

The concern is that if special operations forces go into Ukraine, then the US must be able to provide a rapid means of getting them and embassy personnel out in a crisis. Currently, the only options are vehicle or rail transport to the border.

For now, there is no appetite at the Pentagon to provide air support such as helicopters or fixed wing transport.
If that was done, it could rapidly escalate the US military footprint because of the need to then provide potential rescue and reconnaissance forces if a US plane was shot down down.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/23/polit...ces/index.html

I wish we could fu**ing strafe the Kremlin. That guy is such a demon.