Will President Biden directly address MBS on 9/11?

[Matt Dillon]

Okay so what does his speech on 9/11 have to do with wanting him to confront the Saudi crown about their involvement in 9/11?

Biden can't confront Tapioca pudding, ok?

The Saudis told him to go fuck himself and that he's nothing to them.

Biden cannot even get a dialogue with the Saudis, you stupid fuck.

He can want in one hand, and shit in the other, and the other is going to fill up first.

They know he's a dishonorable piece of shit. They are not granting him an audience at all.

True story, brah.

Is Biden gonna try to talk to Kim next?

Nobody respects Biden, because he's a piece of shit.

He didn't win the election, it was cheated for him.

Nobody in America is that stupid. No, Biden did not get the most votes ever. Democrats wanted power and cheated the election.

Almost everybody knows it, and Democrats are garbage that needs taken out, ok?

They are not an American political party anymore.

They are a faction that's trying to do America in; That's not going to go the way they want it to.

They fucked up.

[AProudLefty]

Biden can't confront Tapioca pudding, ok?

The Saudis told him to go fuck himself and that he's nothing to them.

Biden cannot even get a dialogue with the Saudis, you stupid fuck.

He can want in one hand, and shit in the other, and the other is going to fill up first.

So you don't want the truth about 9/11 to get out?

[Matt Dillon]

So you don't want the truth about 9/11 to get out?

Probably the Bushes hired the Sauds.

That isn't high on the priority list in this day and age.

Nobody in Saudi Arabia likes Biden. His cred is shit, ok? The truth will have to wait for later on that.

He's not going to get a fucking thing. Because they think he's an asshole, and he IS an asshole.

And you're tugging his dick, so you're an asshole too.

[T. A. Gardner]

That the Saudis were responsible for 9/11 and that Bush lied?

That's almost as good a conspiracy theory as the whole Trump-Russia collusion...

[AProudLefty]

That's almost as good a conspiracy theory as the whole Trump-Russia collusion...

It isn't a conspiracy theory.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/10363...nections-to-9-

[T. A. Gardner]

So you don't want the truth about 9/11 to get out?

The truth is that 9/11 was carried out by a group of mostly Saudi men from upper-middle class, well-to-do families attending Western universities and becoming affiliated with radical Leftist agitators. Between these and radical Muslim agitators these men, who saw their own society as limiting them, had an axe to grind. Both the radical Muslim faction, and the radical Leftists convinced them that Western society, and the US in particular, were to blame.
They concocted their plan over a number of years of festering hatred even as they indulged themselves in the very society they hated. All of this was at least in part funded by Saddam Hussein who was more than willing to hand cash to anyone or group that would carry out terrorist acts against what Iraq saw as their enemies.

They then successfully carried out their attack on the US.

Note, as members of al Quida, they were wanted in Saudi Arabia which is why they weren't there and didn't go there.

[AProudLefty]

The truth is that 9/11 was carried out by a group of mostly Saudi men from upper-middle class, well-to-do families attending Western universities and becoming affiliated with radical Leftist agitators. Between these and radical Muslim agitators these men, who saw their own society as limiting them, had an axe to grind. Both the radical Muslim faction, and the radical Leftists convinced them that Western society, and the US in particular, were to blame.
They concocted their plan over a number of years of festering hatred even as they indulged themselves in the very society they hated. All of this was at least in part funded by Saddam Hussein who was more than willing to hand cash to anyone or group that would carry out terrorist acts against what Iraq saw as their enemies.

They then successfully carried out their attack on the US.

Note, as members of al Quida, they were wanted in Saudi Arabia which is why they weren't there and didn't go there.

Groans. That was so bad I have to give it -100 out of 10.

[T. A. Gardner]

It isn't a conspiracy theory.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/10363...nections-to-9-

Conspiracy theory. There might well have been sympathizers within the Saudi government, but that doesn't mean the Saudi government was in favor of what al Quida was doing.

[AProudLefty]

Conspiracy theory. There might well have been sympathizers within the Saudi government, but that doesn't mean the Saudi government was in favor of what al Quida was doing.

So you are saying that the FBI was wrong?

[T. A. Gardner]

So you are saying that the FBI was wrong?

I'm saying you are reading between the lines and putting something into it that isn't there. Your version says that the Saudis and their government were and are some sort of monolithic mindset where everyone is on the same page. That's no more true there than it is here with our government. Individuals in Saudi Arabia could have been sympathizers and supporters but that doesn't equate to the Saudi government officially--even if covertly--supporting Al Quida or its acts. It is clear that Bin Laden and the al Quida leadership were hiding out in Afghanistan to avoid arrest by the Saudi government among other governments that wanted them.

[AProudLefty]

I'm saying you are reading between the lines and putting something into it that isn't there. Your version says that the Saudis and their government were and are some sort of monolithic mindset where everyone is on the same page. That's no more true there than it is here with our government. Individuals in Saudi Arabia could have been sympathizers and supporters but that doesn't equate to the Saudi government officially--even if covertly--supporting Al Quida or its acts. It is clear that Bin Laden and the al Quida leadership were hiding out in Afghanistan to avoid arrest by the Saudi government among other governments that wanted them.

See that's ad hominem. You said, "your version". It isn't my version. The Saudi Arabia has been known to be connected to 9/11 since 9/11. The FBI report confirms it.

And no I never claimed that everyone in Saudi government are on the same page. That's pure ad hominem. Remember that Bush had a Freudian slip about invading Iraq?

[T. A. Gardner]

See that's ad hominem. You said, "your version". It isn't my version. The Saudi Arabia has been known to be connected to 9/11 since 9/11. The FBI report confirms it.

And no I never claimed that everyone in Saudi government are on the same page. That's pure ad hominem. Remember that Bush had a Freudian slip about invading Iraq?

Wrong. You really don't understand what ad hominem is do you? Let me ask this: Are you claiming that the Saudi government was directly and knowingly involved in 9/11? That is, they knew about the plan and supported it officially, if covertly. Is that your position?

[AProudLefty]

Wrong. You really don't understand what ad hominem is do you? Let me ask this: Are you claiming that the Saudi government was directly and knowingly involved in 9/11? That is, they knew about the plan and supported it officially, if covertly. Is that your position?

Yes.

And yes it is an ad hominem. You accused me of it being my "version" which I have not expressed such a thing.

[Doc Dutch]

How is this rambling? Do you want Biden to address 9/11 to MBS or not?

He already addressed it by declassifying the files last September: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/10363...nections-to-9-
Biden Declassifies Secret FBI Report Detailing Saudi Nationals' Connections To 9/11
The partially redacted report shows a closer relationship than had been previously known between two Saudis in particular — including one with diplomatic status — and some of the hijackers. Families of the 9/11 victims have long sought after the report, which painted a starkly different portrait than the one described by the 9/11 Commission Report in 2004.

While the commission was largely unable to tie the Saudi men to the hijackers, the FBI document describes multiple connections and phone calls.

[AProudLefty]

He already addressed it by declassifying the files last September: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/12/10363...nections-to-9-
Biden Declassifies Secret FBI Report Detailing Saudi Nationals' Connections To 9/11
The partially redacted report shows a closer relationship than had been previously known between two Saudis in particular — including one with diplomatic status — and some of the hijackers. Families of the 9/11 victims have long sought after the report, which painted a starkly different portrait than the one described by the 9/11 Commission Report in 2004.

While the commission was largely unable to tie the Saudi men to the hijackers, the FBI document describes multiple connections and phone calls.

Well yeah but this is about Biden's possible visit to Saudi Arabia.