ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
If they feel the need to dispute numbers, there are hundreds of countries whose COVID data is doubtful. Most of them are poorer countries that just don't have the resources to collect accurate data. Others outright fudge it to look better -- like China and Russia, for instance. According to Worldometer, there have been 6.3M deaths so far from COVID. My feeling is that it's far higher.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (05-23-2022), ExpressLane (05-23-2022)
Agreed on all points. I think the polls are being conservative. The oddity is that the "conservatives" AKA Trump cocksuckers AKA Cultists drinking from the tap disbelieve all polls and only trust the information they are given from those they like such as Pedo Don, Tucker, Sean, etc.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
He is a very good man. His daughter is a Veterinarian and his son now is an Orthopedic resident so he has educated his kids at least . I am very glad for him to see that at least. Interestingly his daughter her husband my friend and his wife all caught COVID at the same time. . My friend did the best out of the 4 of them. Odd HMHO. Thanks for the well wishes.
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ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Mina (05-23-2022)
I think that's such a great method, since it doesn't rely on state officials to make judgment calls about whether or not to count something as a COVID death in a case where it may have been a complicating factor but not necessarily a determinative one. Also, because states have had VASTLY different rates of testing, states with higher testing rates were more likely to declare a given death a COVID death, which further skews data from one state to another (and from one time to another..... like a COVID death was less likely to be recognized in early 2020, before we had widespread testing, than today).
With excess death data, none of that matters. It's just a question of counting bodies, regardless of cause of death, and then comparing the rate to the background rate.
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
Good points. It also works for other nations as well, assuming of course that their background rate of death is accurate to begin with. Even if it's not, though, you still have some data showing that during the pandemic, the death rate rose by __% or ___ number of deaths above the average.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Exactly. With very poor nations, the data is too lousy to mean anything, since they were never counting deaths accurately, anyway. Like in central Africa, people can be born, live, and die out in rural villages without ever showing up in any official stats. But among the top few dozen countries, the governments do a good job tracking death counts, and so you can compare excess death rates during the pandemic.
Click here:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/c...SA~ISR~BOL~ECU
You can see the huge difference in cumulative excess death between, say, Peru (76%) and Greenland (-7%). The US is pretty bad, at 17%, which is worse than nearly any other rich country. But there are places within the US, like Massachusetts, that are in line with Western Europe... it's just that the train-wreck states, like Arizona, Mississippi, and Texas, really screw up the averages.
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
Agreed but the fucking morons don't understand the difference. They still only believe what their leaders on Facebook and Twitter/Truth Social tell them.
Note the kerfuffle over Trump's "reTruth" of a "civil war" comment. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...cklash-1708989
No sane person believes the US will devolve into civil war, but as the WSE shooter in NY proved, there are nutjobs out there who will take it seriously and murder Americans. None of the chickenshits on JPP, of course. They're all spineless, nutless blowhards talking tough on the Internet. LOL
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
“The Communist party must control the guns.”
― Mao Tse-tung
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”-Generally attributed to Uncle Joe Stalin
“Everything under heaven is in utter choas; the situation is excellent.”
― mao tse-tung
It's fascinating that during the first year of the pandemic, RWers were insisting that non-COVID deaths were being reported as COVID, the numbers were greatly exaggerated (exc. of course in NYC lol), blah blah blah. But *now* they're insisting that not only are the numbers super accurate, most of the 1,000,000 dead Americans died since Biden became President.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Yep. Intellectual consistency isn't their thing.
It's true that things have remained bad, on the COVID front, on Biden's watch. But what is remarkable is how localized that's been, at least since Biden took office. Blue states (and even liberal areas within states whether red or blue), have done pretty well since Biden took office. It's red states (and conservative areas within states) that have been having a rough time of it, as conservatives have resisted the administration's efforts to get the pandemic under control.
Put it this way, if you calculate excess death percent for each state/territory after Trump left office, through mid-April of this year (the last reliable data to be collected so far), there are 25 places with lower excess death percents than the nation as a whole and 17 of them are "blue" states/territories. In those liberal places, COVID has almost been a non-event since Biden took office. Like Massachusetts has an excess death level of only 2.34% in that period, which is within the normal year-to-year variation before COVID came along (even before the pandemic, states could be 3 points high or low in a given year). But at the other end of the spectrum, you've got die-hard right-wing Alaska, where it's 29.23%, which is almost ten times what could be explained by any normal variation. For hard-core conservative states like Texas, West Virginia, and Mississippi, the Biden era looks as bad or worse than the Trump era looked.
ThatOwlWoman (05-23-2022)
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