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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    yeah and you smell like boogers
    Are you 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    yeah and you smell like boogers
    Tom smells of Thai whore

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    needless cacophony on Biden's part. he's not alone of course
    That and the Iran deal undermined the special relationship, and stymied expansion of the Abraham Accords

    Biden pays much too much attention to "authoritarian dictators" in terms of policy making

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    24/7 365 I can do that; Bitchass.
    Well, you also think that Biden is the reason for high fuel prices, so fantasy seems to be your thing.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    yeah and you smell like boogers


    That's one of the best things I've seen in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Anonymous View Post
    Tom smells of Thai whore
    The missus uses Chanel #19, your wife's pussy smells of rancid gefilte fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post


    That's one of the best things I've seen in a while.
    You should get out more!

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    watch this, and tell me again how anything Biden does concerning Saudi Arabia can even be compared to how the U.S. is expected to deal with a nation that has so much influence on the price of oil in the world. Trump, just like the Bush family, did what Republicans do when in office--take advantage of every single opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post

    watch this, and tell me again how anything Biden does concerning Saudi Arabia can even be compared to how the U.S. is expected to deal with a nation that has so much influence on the price of oil in the world. Trump, just like the Bush family, did what Republicans do when in office--take advantage of every single opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of the country.
    Well, we were competing with the Sauds in oil production while Trump was president. Now Biden can't even talk to them. He did this to us. It's all on him.

    The Sauds liked Trump, they don't like Biden.

    Biden is who put the US into a position to where there's going to be a shortfall of oil supply in America. He did it day 1 and there's really no reason he should have to be asking the Saudis for oil.

    Yet he did that, and it will have repercussions worldwide. This summer will be like none you have ever seen.
    Last edited by Matt Dillon; 05-24-2022 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Remember Mr. Biden’s promise, during his presidential campaign, to make Saudi Arabia “a pariah” — and not only because of the Khashoggi assassination? Saudi Arabia treats domestic dissidents harshly and continues to wage a destructive war in neighboring Yemen, though a tentative U.S.-backed cease-fire is currently in place. Mr. Biden began his term by making public U.S. intelligence confirming MBS’s role in the Khashoggi case and refusing to deal directly with the crown prince. But Mr. Biden did not impose an asset freeze and U.S. travel ban on MBS, as he could and should have done. Furious nevertheless, MBS refused subsequent outreach from the president and snubbed U.S. requests to help alleviate rising oil prices by pumping more Saudi crude.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-crown-prince/
    Consider this risky outreach to Saudi Arabia demonstrated by one of the lowest life forms on Earth that being tRump, his entire treasonous family and in-laws and criminal repuke associates of the gutter of sedition:

    Defying Congress, Trump sets $8 billion-plus in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia, UAE

    Trump, declaring a national emergency because of tensions with Iran, swept aside objections from Congress on Friday to complete the sale of over $8 billion worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan.

    The Trump administration informed congressional committees that it will go ahead with 22 military sales to the Saudis, United Arab Emirates and Jordan, infuriating lawmakers by circumventing a long-standing precedent for congressional review of major weapons sales.

    Members of Congress had been blocking sales of offensive military equipment to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates for months, angry about the huge civilian toll from their air campaign in Yemen, as well as human rights abuses such as the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi at a Saudi consulate in Turkey."
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SU25R

    There’s nothing “America First” about Trump’s Saudi policy
    Trump does seem to make money off it personally.

    Trump must be giving thanks this morning for press coverage of his extraordinarily inappropriate statement on the murder of dissident and journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

    Trump has secretive sources of income and murky financial ties to Saudi interests, and keeps touting entirely bogus statistics about the jobs impact of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Nevertheless, much of the coverage of his statement simply takes at face value his assertions that his handling of this issue is driven by American interests — rather than by his own self-interest or the interests of his donors in the defense contracting industry.

    For example, take two New York Times articles this morning: First, Mark Landler described the statement as “a stark distillation of the Trump worldview: remorselessly transactional, heedless of the facts, determined to put America’s interests first, and founded on a theory of moral equivalence.”
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-america-first
    Last edited by gemini104104; 05-25-2022 at 01:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Consider this risky outreach to Saudi Arabia demonstrated by one of the lowest life forms on Earth that being tRump:

    Defying Congress, Trump sets $8 billion-plus in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia, UAE

    Trump, declaring a national emergency because of tensions with Iran, swept aside objections from Congress on Friday to complete the sale of over $8 billion worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan.

    The Trump administration informed congressional committees that it will go ahead with 22 military sales to the Saudis, United Arab Emirates and Jordan, infuriating lawmakers by circumventing a long-standing precedent for congressional review of major weapons sales.

    Members of Congress had been blocking sales of offensive military equipment to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates for months, angry about the huge civilian toll from their air campaign in Yemen, as well as human rights abuses such as the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi at a Saudi consulate in Turkey."
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SU25R

    There’s nothing “America First” about Trump’s Saudi policy
    Trump does seem to make money off it personally.

    Trump must be giving thanks this morning for press coverage of his extraordinarily inappropriate statement on the murder of dissident and journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

    Trump has secretive sources of income and murky financial ties to Saudi interests, and keeps touting entirely bogus statistics about the jobs impact of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Nevertheless, much of the coverage of his statement simply takes at face value his assertions that his handling of this issue is driven by American interests — rather than by his own self-interest or the interests of his donors in the defense contracting industry.

    For example, take two New York Times articles this morning: First, Mark Landler described the statement as “a stark distillation of the Trump worldview: remorselessly transactional, heedless of the facts, determined to put America’s interests first, and founded on a theory of moral equivalence.”
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-america-first
    You dont even know how idiotic you look.

    More learning/Less talking is the program for you.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Remember Mr. Biden’s promise, during his presidential campaign, to make Saudi Arabia “a pariah” — and not only because of the Khashoggi assassination? Saudi Arabia treats domestic dissidents harshly and continues to wage a destructive war in neighboring Yemen, though a tentative U.S.-backed cease-fire is currently in place. Mr. Biden began his term by making public U.S. intelligence confirming MBS’s role in the Khashoggi case and refusing to deal directly with the crown prince. But Mr. Biden did not impose an asset freeze and U.S. travel ban on MBS, as he could and should have done. Furious nevertheless, MBS refused subsequent outreach from the president and snubbed U.S. requests to help alleviate rising oil prices by pumping more Saudi crude.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-crown-prince/
    trump and his crime family's self-dealing with MBS will be legendary. Saudi was trump's first foreign trip. There was a good reason for that. He, Jerod, and Munuchin have reaped billions from it on our dime. If the Dems take the house and increase their numbers in the Senate these trump criminals are fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You dont even know how idiotic you look.

    More learning/Less talking is the program for you.
    Every trump accusation is a confession, sunny jim. You're proving you're the actual idiot here. Try to do better. I won't hold out hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Well, we were competing with the Sauds in oil production while Trump was president. Now Biden can't even talk to them. He did this to us. It's all on him.

    The Sauds liked Trump, they don't like Biden.

    Biden is who put the US into a position to where there's going to be a shortfall of oil supply in America. He did it day 1 and there's really no reason he should have to be asking the Saudis for oil.

    Yet he did that, and it will have repercussions worldwide. This summer will be like none you have ever seen.
    The Saudi's liked trump because he gave MBS cover as he imprisoned and killed his political opposition and assassinated a WaPo journalist. So funny people like you are either blind to that or don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    The Saudi's liked trump because he gave MBS cover as he imprisoned and killed his political opposition and assassinated a WaPo journalist. So funny people like you are either blind to that or don't care.
    WaPo journo who was also a committed Islamist and dedicated to the Muslim Brotherhood cause, why should we care?

    It’s worth asking what accounts for the discrepancy between the coverage of Khashoggi and the coverage of any other journalist who has been killed. American journalists seem to have considered Khashoggi one of them due to his work for The Washington Post. But how did he become one of them? While certainly no one deserves the fate that appears to have befallen Khashoggi, and there is no justification for the alleged actions of Saudi officials, it’s still worth asking who Khashoggi was and what he was doing writing for the Post to begin with.

    Writing in Spectator USA, Matthew R.J. Brodsky of the Security Studies Group, reports that:

    In the 1970s [Khashoggi] joined the Muslim Brotherhood, which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the ‘moderate’ Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy.

    He had been a journalist in the 1980s and 1990s, but then became more of a player than a spectator. Before working with a succession of Saudi princes, he edited Saudi newspapers. The exclusive remit a Saudi government–appointed newspaper editor has is to ensure nothing remotely resembling honest journalism makes it into the pages.

    https://www.camera.org/article/cover...dia-hypocrisy/

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