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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    We don't need their oil.
    So why is Biden begging for it?

    I'll tell you why: The US will run out of fuel this summer.

    Biden has fucked up the American fuel industry, and that's why everything is going south quickly.

    He did it on day 1, and it will get much worse before it gets any better.

    Didn't I read that Biden was reaching out to Venezuela? Is that true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    So why is Biden begging for it?

    I'll tell you why: The US will run out of fuel this summer.

    Biden has fucked up the American fuel industry, and that's why everything is going south quickly.

    He did it on day 1, and it will get much worse before it gets any better.

    Didn't I read that Biden was reaching out to Venezuela? Is that true?
    I thought I told you to stop posting this drunken nonsense.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Remember Mr. Biden’s promise, during his presidential campaign, to make Saudi Arabia “a pariah” — and not only because of the Khashoggi assassination? Saudi Arabia treats domestic dissidents harshly and continues to wage a destructive war in neighboring Yemen, though a tentative U.S.-backed cease-fire is currently in place. Mr. Biden began his term by making public U.S. intelligence confirming MBS’s role in the Khashoggi case and refusing to deal directly with the crown prince. But Mr. Biden did not impose an asset freeze and U.S. travel ban on MBS, as he could and should have done. Furious nevertheless, MBS refused subsequent outreach from the president and snubbed U.S. requests to help alleviate rising oil prices by pumping more Saudi crude.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-crown-prince/
    The Saudi's are done with us, they are on Team China now.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I thought I told you to stop posting this drunken nonsense.
    You don't tell me what to do, bitch!

    I'll knock your head off your fucking spine.

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    Who else can we shove into embrace with China?

    This is suicide.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    You don't tell me what to do, bitch!

    I'll knock your head off your fucking spine.
    LOL@ beer muscles
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    LOL@ beer muscles
    24/7 365 I can do that; Bitchass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Prince Khalid bin Salman of Saudi Arabia is hardly a household name but should be notorious. As the oil-rich kingdom’s ambassador to Washington in the fall of 2018, he assured journalist and Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi he could safely collect some papers he needed at the Saudi Arabian Consulate in Istanbul, according to CIA analysis that has been reported in The Post. Khashoggi went in but never emerged; he was murdered by Saudi agents. The then-ambassador may not have known that Khashoggi would be killed. Wittingly or not, however, he subsequently falsely told various news outlets, The Post included, that the Saudi government had no idea where Khashoggi was. Khalid bin Salman denies that he told Khashoggi to go to Istanbul. His credibility in Washington badly damaged, he returned to Saudi Arabia in February 2019.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-crown-prince/
    Why do so many seemingly care about Khashoggi, he was hardly a saint?

    The fate of Khashoggi has at least provoked global outrage, but it’s for all the wrong reasons. We are told he was a liberal, Saudi progressive voice fighting for freedom and democracy, and a martyr who paid the ultimate price for telling the truth to power. This is not just wrong, but distracts us from understanding what the incident tells us about the internal power dynamics of a kingdom going through an unprecedented period of upheaval. It is also the story of how one man got entangled in a Saudi ruling family that operates like the Mafia. Once you join, it’s for life, and if you try to leave, you become disposable.

    In truth, Khashoggi never had much time for western-style pluralistic democracy. In the 1970s he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the ‘moderate’ Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy.

    He had been a journalist in the 1980s and 1990s, but then became more of a player than a spectator. Before working with a succession of Saudi princes, he edited Saudi newspapers. The exclusive remit a Saudi government--appointed newspaper editor has is to ensure nothing remotely resembling honest journalism makes it into the pages. Khashoggi put the money in the bank — making a handsome living was always his top priority. Actions, anyway, speak louder than words.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...of-a-dissident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Why do so many seemingly care about Khashoggi, he was hardly a saint?
    Did he deserve to be murdered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    We don't need their oil.
    You're very ignorant, I'm embarrassed for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    You're very ignorant, I'm embarrassed for you.
    You're a troll. Get lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Did he deserve to be murdered?
    Why do care so much about him anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You're a troll. Get lost.
    You're a fool and very ignorant about the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    You're a fool and very ignorant about the real world.
    yeah and you smell like boogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Why do so many seemingly care about Khashoggi, he was hardly a saint?


    In truth, Khashoggi never had much time for western-style pluralistic democracy. In the 1970s he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the ‘moderate’ Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy.
    yes he was a nebbish . it's crazy to make state policy dependent on him

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