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    Default Germany: Era of engagement w/ Russia is over

    German ambassador: Ukraine war "pulverized" Germany's assumptions on engaging Russia

    German Ambassador to the US Emily Haber said that a strategy of interdependence when engaging Russia has now been "pulverized" by the invasion of Ukraine and resulting fallout.

    "It is true that for many decades our strategy rested on the fundamental assumption ... that interdependence would produce stability, predictability, and to some extent of a time, even alignment. It was, if you will, our experience with regard to the GDR [the former East Germany] ...So this assumption, in effect, has been pulverized."


    Haber also reiterated that the West needs to be united in its messaging against Russian President Vladimir Putin, because "we know, in effect, probably very little about the inner dynamics of his circle."

    Haber also discussed Germany reducing dependence on Russian energy, saying that the country is working at "breakneck speed" and the result will be "irreversible."

    Germany and Qatar on Friday agreed on an energy partnership that may see Doha start supplying liquefied natural gas (LNG) to Berlin in 2024. Earlier this month, Germany started construction works for its first floating LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven, a city and port located in Lower Saxony in northwestern Germany.



    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/europe/live-...-22/index.htmlh

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    And just like that Germany disowns Merkel policy. She is going to go down in history as a disaster for both Germany and Europe.
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    At least this time, we'll hopefully be on Germany's side.
    We were on Russia's side when they quarreled in the 1940s, but Chancellor Scholz isn't Dolph, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    At least this time, we'll hopefully be on Germany's side.
    We were on Russia's side when they quarreled in the 1940s, but Chancellor Scholz isn't Dolph, right?
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    Even in Putin's CSTO military alliance of former Soviet states, only Belarus has openly offered moral support to Putin's invasion. And none of them are offering any active military support.

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    the risk is that a world unified to punish Russia is very much like what happened when the world unified to punish Germany after WW1

    we may be paving the road for the next Hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    the risk is that a world unified to punish Russia is very much like what happened when the world unified to punish Germany after WW1

    we may be paving the road for the next Hitler
    no comparison

    Germany was defeated and surrendered, and was required to pay crushing restitution.

    The best case scenario is that Russia's Invasion will fail and they will have to withdraw to something approximating the February 23 boundaries.

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