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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    sorry.....your lies are old and no longer carry any weight.....the Mueller report, which was instigated on the basis of the lies Sussman told the FBI, concluded there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians......the two impeachments were based upon the fact Pelosi had a bee up her ass.......and so far you're hopes and dreams for a Trump conviction are about as likely as inflation going down under a Biden presidency......
    What, so Trump's own hand pick individual at the FBI started the Mueller investigation cause of what some secondary figure in Clinton's campaign supposedly
    told the FBI?

    Mueller did not conclude that there was no collusion, Billy Barr concluded there was no conclusion, in fact, Mueller was under the idea that his report would be picked up by Congress for further review since he knew Barr believed in the Imperial Presidency bullshit

    Two impeachments were based on facts, unfortunately, the world knew with the GOP Senate they weren't going beyond showing the facts, had nothing to do with Pelosi, she already had Trump's number embarrassing him over and over, which is why you hated her

    And I could care less about Trump being convicted, history will be his judge, besides, with his army of attorneys and accountants, he'll be dead before any legalities has an effect on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    wait a minute, "paying someone to dig up dirt" is different than "paying someone to dig up dirt and lying" exactly about what? Durham hasn't proven anyone lied to the FBI, and if he did, the lie would be that the guy didn't say he was also representing someone else, not about what was in the details

    And if you actually paid attention to what was going on rather than what Fox tells you you would know that today the Clinton people Durham called to take the stand confirmed that the last entity they would take anything to was the FBI given the number Comey did on Clinton just a few months earlier
    no the details were a lie as well. they had no evidence of alpha-bank connection
    "tech #1 Joffe and Elias ( i think it was ) simply cooked it up
    Clinton also passed the Steele dossier on, when warned it was fake

    Then the Fake FISA'a at teh FBI,and the fake Special Counsel appointed despite Page sayng there was no evidence at the time of Russian collusion
    the Clinton campaign, lied about everything.. wise up..The FBI was crooked as well

    Clinton campaign DNC fined by FEC for lying about Steele dossier payments
    https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/clinto...sier-payments/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    nope......I believe they met to get dirt on Clinton and found out there wasn't any so they moved on.......something you cunts will never be able to do........
    Right, and Manford sharing polling data with Russians was just a coincidence

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    At Brookings, Danchenko worked with Fiona Hill, later a member of President Trump’s National Security Council (and a key witness in the first Trump impeachment over the unrelated Ukraine controversy). It was through Hill that Danchenko became acquainted with Steele, who ran a London-based intelligence firm upon leaving MI-6, the British spy service.

    Durham’s indictment alleges that Danchenko lied about two major points.
    John DurhamJohn DurhamU.S. Department of Justice via AP, File

    First, he fabricated the claim that the president of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce informed him that, during the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump was involved in a well-developed “conspiracy of cooperation” with the regime of Russian President Vladimir Putin. In reality, the indictment says, this conversation never happened.



    Danchenko is also alleged to have concealed that one of his sources for the information he provided to Steele was a longtime Democratic Party operative who was close to the Clintons — having worked on both of Bill Clinton’s successful presidential campaigns and Hillary Clinton’s unsuccessful 2008 presidential campaign. This source was revealed on Thursday to be Chuck Dolan, a public relations executive who had Russian contacts, and referred to as “PR Executive-1” in the indictment.

    Durham theorizes that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was a political attack manufactured by the Clinton campaign. Relying on Danchenko, Steele compiled the reports for Glenn Simpson, co-founder of intelligence firm Fusion-GPS, which specializes in digging up political dirt. Fusion-GPS was retained for the Trump project by Perkins-Coie, the Clinton campaign’s law firm.

    Durham’s charging instruments suggest that the Clinton campaign used its agents to peddle the Trump-Russia rumors to the government and the media, then used the fact that Trump was being investigated as part of its campaign messaging.
    https://nypost.com/2021/11/04/arrest...llary-clinton/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Hillary Clinton has dirty hands.. maybe she'll finally STFU
    No, you people are so gullible, the whole Durham charade, after three years, is only in the news now to serve as a counterweight in anticipation of the January 6th's report due out in this summer, to give the right wing media a whataboutism and material for innuendo, it has no other reason, did you actually think America gives a rat's ass about events of six years ago, especially when they are nothing more than more conspiracies and unproven plots

    Put down the Kool Aid and get out more

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Right, and Manford sharing polling data with Russians was just a coincidence
    it wasnt the Russians. Kilimnik was trained in Russia but was working for Ukraine RW groups.
    I think it was a personal business deal - what good does pollng data do the Russians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    At Brookings, Danchenko worked with Fiona Hill, later a member of President Trump’s National Security Council (and a key witness in the first Trump impeachment over the unrelated Ukraine controversy). It was through Hill that Danchenko became acquainted with Steele, who ran a London-based intelligence firm upon leaving MI-6, the British spy service.

    Durham’s indictment alleges that Danchenko lied about two major points.
    John DurhamJohn DurhamU.S. Department of Justice via AP, File

    First, he fabricated the claim that the president of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce informed him that, during the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump was involved in a well-developed “conspiracy of cooperation” with the regime of Russian President Vladimir Putin. In reality, the indictment says, this conversation never happened.



    Danchenko is also alleged to have concealed that one of his sources for the information he provided to Steele was a longtime Democratic Party operative who was close to the Clintons — having worked on both of Bill Clinton’s successful presidential campaigns and Hillary Clinton’s unsuccessful 2008 presidential campaign. This source was revealed on Thursday to be Chuck Dolan, a public relations executive who had Russian contacts, and referred to as “PR Executive-1” in the indictment.

    Durham theorizes that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was a political attack manufactured by the Clinton campaign. Relying on Danchenko, Steele compiled the reports for Glenn Simpson, co-founder of intelligence firm Fusion-GPS, which specializes in digging up political dirt. Fusion-GPS was retained for the Trump project by Perkins-Coie, the Clinton campaign’s law firm.

    Durham’s charging instruments suggest that the Clinton campaign used its agents to peddle the Trump-Russia rumors to the government and the media, then used the fact that Trump was being investigated as part of its campaign messaging.
    https://nypost.com/2021/11/04/arrest...llary-clinton/
    Enough already, all you are doing is regurgitating conspiracies and scenarios none of which have been proven beyond innuendo and are only echoed by Murdoch to sell, make money, we have been listening to the same Clinton bullshit for decades now, put down the Kool Aid and move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No, you people are so gullible, the whole Durham charade, after three years, is only in the news now to serve as a counterweight in anticipation of the January 6th's report due out in this summer, to give the right wing media a whataboutism and material for innuendo, it has no other reason, did you actually think America gives a rat's ass about events of six years ago, especially when they are nothing more than more conspiracies and unproven plots

    Put down the Kool Aid and get out more
    yu are spiningg your ass off this is meaningless
    It was the Mother of all Dirty tricks, poisoned US/Russian relations and did not allow Trump
    to do a Russian reset as Obama did.
    Perhaps if Trump had made a deal with Putin for Crimean recognition in return for getting out of Donbas..
    (spitballing)

    Trump couldn't even TALK to Putin. Clinton poisoned that well

    Nobody cares about 1/6. It doesnt even poll as as issue, and no this isn't some master time plan
    Durham has been working on this for a long time -COVID slowed it up

    Time you give it up and understand
    Clinton is a vile beast with unbounded ambition she would pull crap like this, damn the consequences.
    Now we know she personally "did it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    it wasnt the Russians. Kilimnik was trained in Russia but was working for Ukraine RW groups.
    I think it was a personal business deal - what good does pollng data do the Russians?
    Provided Russian hackers who to target via algorithms to reinforce the same conspiracies you swallowed to undecided voters, and you saying it was a "personal business deal" is really kind of hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Enough already, all you are doing is regurgitating conspiracies and scenarios none of which have been proven beyond innuendo and are only echoed by Murdoch to sell, make money, we have been listening to the same Clinton bullshit for decades now, put down the Kool Aid and move on
    LMAO you aren't even trying.. I told YOU this was ALL BULLSHIT from day 1
    it fucked up diplomatic relations, made Trump look like a traitor, meaning he had a difficult time getting personnel
    and caused attempts to undermine a duly elected POTUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Provided Russian hackers who to target via algorithms to reinforce the same conspiracies you swallowed to undecided voters, and you saying it was a "personal business deal" is really kind of hilarious
    FB bots?? is that the Russian meddling?? that is pathetic
    Do you have any idea what we did in Ukraine to foment a revolution (Euromaidan)..puuuleees

    and again Kilimnik was not "Russian intelligence"- the is a Weissmann wet dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    yu are spiningg your ass off this is meaningless
    It was the Mother of all Dirty tricks, poisoned US/Russian relations and did not allow Trump
    to do a Russian reset as Obama did.
    Perhaps if Trump had made a deal with Putin for Crimean recognition in return for getting out of Donbas..
    (spitballing)

    Trump couldn't even TALK to Putin. Clinton poisoned that well

    Nobody cares about 1/6. It doesnt even poll as as issue, and no this isn't some master time plan
    Durham has been working on this for a long time -COVID slowed it up

    Time you give it up and understand
    Clinton is a vile beast with unbounded ambition she would pull crap like this, damn the consequences.
    Now we know she personally "did it"
    So now all these conspiracies that have yet to be proven beyond Fox talk shows hurt Trump's chances to reset with Russia? And why would Trump need a reset with Russia when beginning on day one he bowed down to Putin, and is still doing it today

    Durham "polls as an issue?"

    And no, you believing the innuendos you are fed does not prove she "did it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    FB bots?? is that the Russian meddling?? that is pathetic
    Do you have any idea what we did in Ukraine to foment a revolution (Euromaidan)..puuuleees

    and again Kilimnik was not "Russian intelligence"- the is a Weissmann wet dream
    Here we go, says it all when we now have to drag in the Ukraine, deflect in another direction, are you going to tell us next that Zelensky is part of the Clinton campaign's effort to do in Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    What, so Trump's own hand pick individual at the FBI started the Mueller investigation cause of what some secondary figure in Clinton's campaign supposedly
    told the FBI?

    Mueller did not conclude that there was no collusion, Billy Barr concluded there was no conclusion, in fact, Mueller was under the idea that his report would be picked up by Congress for further review since he knew Barr believed in the Imperial Presidency bullshit

    Two impeachments were based on facts, unfortunately, the world knew with the GOP Senate they weren't going beyond showing the facts, had nothing to do with Pelosi, she already had Trump's number embarrassing him over and over, which is why you hated her

    And I could care less about Trump being convicted, history will be his judge, besides, with his army of attorneys and accountants, he'll be dead before any legalities has an effect on him
    THE RUSSIA LIES WERE STARTED AND PUSHED LONG BEFORE THEN.

    THERE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN A "MUELLER PROBE"; THE ENTIRE THING WAS MADEUP LIES...


    THE SEDITION-O-CRATS, THE LEFTOVER OBAMA INTELL ,AND THE FAKE NEWS LIED FOR THREE+ YEARS TO AMERICANS, SPREADING THE LIES THEY CREATED ABOUT "TRUMP-RUSSIA" TO TRY TO END TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY.


    TREASON. CLEAR AND SIMPLE.

    AND HILLARY IS IN IT UP TO HER NECK.




    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


    De Oppresso Liber

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    So now all these conspiracies that have yet to be proven beyond Fox talk shows hurt Trump's chances to reset with Russia? And why would Trump need a reset with Russia when beginning on day one he bowed down to Putin, and is still doing it today
    damn when you are dense you are REALLY dense.
    the fact of "Russian collusion" lie made Putin poisonous to even talk to by Trump - Trump wanted to try to improve Russian relations (as did Obama). But because of the lies being peddling by Clinton could not.
    I hope you get this basic.

    Durham "polls as an issue?"
    not at all.but your/Dem reliance on 1/6 as some kind of game changer is a laugher -especially since the FBI saif there was no plot - no Trump "gotcha"

    And no, you believing the innuendos you are fed does not prove she "did it"
    not innuendo my friend. Straight from Mooks (Clinton campaign manger) mouth

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