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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Oh, my lord. I'll try saying it again: there is literally zero way economically that Biden's policies could be responsible for global inflation, that started 16 MONTHS AGO.

    Do you think a Presidential policy can trigger something economically within a week?
    These are the same people who were praising Trump's actions regarding the economy just weeks into his presidency completely disregarding the high he was riding coming from Obama's economic recovery. They really do believe presidents can make that kind of economic change in a mere few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Don't we all? The difference is I can any time I feel like it.
    Makes all the difference doesn't it?

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    This forum seems to have a bunch of angry incels banging away their rage on their keyboards...but you also sound like old farts who need to be seen as still relevant. Weird combo.

    But for sure there is a deep seated rage coming from a few of you. I hope you are taking your heart pills on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Similarly, I have data for birth rates of 15 to 17 year olds from 1992-2000. Here is the per-year decline in that rate by president:

    Clinton 1.375
    Bush 0.75
    Obama 1.50
    Trump 0.75
    Are you saying during Democratic presidents their policies caused the teen birth rate to decline faster than under Republicans presidents and then, when a Republican replaced a Democrat the birth rate continued to decline under the Republican policy but at a slower rate? Remember, it takes a year for a new president's budget and many of his policies to take effect.

    What Democratic policy and which Republican policy caused those declines to occur?

    It is hard to believe Clinton's liberal leadership caused teens to have less sex or Bush's abstinence policy.

    Let's look at the actual teen birth rate rather than the rate of decline. Teenager Girls 15-19: Per 1,000 Women

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-us-teenagers/

    1991-2020. I started with 1993 because it was the first year of the Clinton presidency.

    1993: 59
    1994: 58.2
    1995: 56
    1996: 53.5
    1997: 51.3
    1998: 50.3
    1999: 48.8
    2000: 47.7
    2001: 45
    2002: 42.6
    2003: 41.1
    2004: 40.5
    2005: 39.7
    2006: 41.1
    2007: 41.5
    2008: 40.2
    2009: 37.9
    2010: 34.2
    2011: 31.3
    2012: 29.4
    2013: 26.5
    2014: 24.2
    2015: 22.3
    2016: 20.3
    2017: 18.8
    2018: 17.4
    2019: 16.7
    2020: 15.4

    Average per presidential term:
    Clinton 56.6
    Clinton: 49.5
    Bush: 42.3
    Bush: 40.6
    Obama: 33.2
    Obama: 23.3
    Trump: 17

    Democratic Presidents Average: 40.65
    Republican Presidents Average: 33.3

    Between 1993-2020 the teen birth rate under Democrats averaged 7.35 higher than Republicans.

    Based on your conclusions Republican policies resulted in lower teen birth rate then Democrats. Trump's leadership caused the lowest teen birth rates since the data has been kept.

    Now, I certainly don't agree with your conclusions that party policies account for these changes in the teen birth rate and I bet you are having problems believing Trump's policies caused the lowest birth rate, but that is the argument that you are making.

    As for red and blue states, we both know teen birth rate is related to socio-economic class and the blue states have a higher class with fewer poor minorities than many of the red states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    I thought of another possibility for an area where Republicans might have done better: teen birth rates. Republicans at least frame themselves as a "family values" party, and opposed to things like premarital sex, so in theory they might have done better lowering the teen birth rates.

    Turns out that didn't happen, though. In the average year with a Republican president, the teen birth rate fell about 0.5625 points, versus 1.71429 points during the average year with a Democratic president. So, the rate of improvement was a little over three times as fast when Democrats were in the Oval Office:

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...960&view=chart

    Any other ideas?
    Republican performance is better for both teen birth rate and average annual poverty rate. I made posts with this data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolred44 View Post
    They really do believe presidents can make that kind of economic change in a mere few weeks.
    maybe not weeks;
    but it only took Biden a few months to destroy a strong recovery with high inflation and supply chain holes

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    maybe not weeks;
    but it only took Biden a few months to destroy a strong recovery with high inflation and supply chain holes
    What Biden policy(ies) caused high inflation and supply chain holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    What Biden policy(ies) caused high inflation and supply chain holes?
    More regulations on drilling, prohibiting in ANWAR...
    The Biden administration on Monday reversed a Trump administration plan that would have allowed the government to lease more than two-thirds of the country's largest swath of public land to oil and gas drilling
    https://www.google.com/search?client...lling+in+ANWAR
    i'd have to reseach more details, but oil companies are quoted as saying Biden injected a lot of uncertainty
    and as a result we are still down by about 2 million barrels now then Trump,
    Drilling is capitol intensive, and companies want stability before they commit

    Then there was Spending Pallooza - much too much under Trump - because of a reaction to the bad decisions of lockdown. You can add Republicans here where you want to.

    Biden gets more "infrastructure" that is heavily tilted to green and not much "shovel ready job"

    Thank great Buddha Manchin stopped BBB - or we'd be ..in a really bad place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Republican performance is better for both teen birth rate and average annual poverty rate. I made posts with this data.
    yes, and they are good at collapsing the economy

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    Reagan and Bush, bad for economy, Clinton corrects it.
    BushII bad for economy, Obama corrects it.
    Trump bad for economy, Biden corrects it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    yes, and they are good at collapsing the economy
    Based on Trump and Biden both parties are doing a good job of collapsing the economy. Both presidents have extreme highs and extreme lows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Based on Trump and Biden both parties are doing a good job of collapsing the economy. Both presidents have extreme highs and extreme lows.
    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Oh, my lord. I'll try saying it again: there is literally zero way economically that Biden's policies could be responsible for global inflation, that started 16 MONTHS AGO.

    Do you think a Presidential policy can trigger something economically within a week?
    You say that, but it's not true. You know it's not true, therefore you are an intentional liar.

    That's bad. That makes you a bad person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Reagan and Bush, bad for economy, Clinton corrects it.
    BushII bad for economy, Obama corrects it.
    Trump bad for economy, Biden corrects it.

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