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    Default Dinesh DíSouzaís Vile Big Lie Documentary 2000 Mules Is Too Stupid Even for Fox

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    Dinesh DíSouzaís Vile Big Lie Documentary Is Too Stupid Even for Fox
    I watched this crap so you donít have toóand, trust me, you donít want to.

    There are a lot of reasons that Donald Trumpís Big Lie about voter fraud in the 2020 election is among the most despicable political acts in U.S. history.
    Itís poisoned the minds of millions of Americansóvery likely permanentlyóinto believing our elections canít be trusted (unless Republicans win). It was the impetus for the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. It was the excuse to break the previously sacrosanct American tradition of a peaceful transfer of power.

    Itís tragic that this democracy-threatening hoax was perpetrated by a known compulsive liaróa corrupt businessman from a privileged upbringing, infamous for stiffing his working-class contractors. Trump had already falsely claimed a conspiracy of voter fraud in 2016 (the election he actually won), and then again for the entire 2020 presidential cycle when he blathered about unnamed forces conspiring to steal the election from him.
    Both times he sent the implicit message to his supporters: No election result is valid unless I win. And they believed this incoherent charlatan.
    The new documentary 2000 Mules (a Dinesh DíSouza Joint), is barely more credible than your average random conspiracy theory video on YouTube, but its production values attach to it a superficial seriousness. The filmís intended audience will see a rational ďjust asking questionsĒ kinda guy (DíSouza) talking with some ideological allies (like Charlie Kirk, Dennis Prager, Sebastian Gorka, and Larry Elder) who are merely concerned about voter integrity in the America they love.
    But the bulk of the film consists of DíSouzaís highly dramatized explainer sessions with a couple of technological ďexpertsĒ (also credited as executive producers) whose claims that theyíve used geotracking data to uncover thousands of vote-harvesting mules fall apart under the barest of scrutiny.
    Surveillance footage of people taking selfies after dropping their votes in dropboxes is presented as ďA-ha!Ē evidenceówhile ignoring the fact that people taking voter selfies was a mundanely common thing to do in 2020 (and for quite a few years prior).
    Video clips of people dropping off a few ballots are presented as unimpeachable evidence of voter fraud, even though dropping ballots for family members was also common. And despite the repeated claims by the ďexpertsĒ that theyíve tracked literally thousands of vote-dropping ďmulesĒónot a single one of these supposed professional voter fraud foot soldiers is shown on screen making more than one drop.
    These are all things that even DíSouza later admitted donít actually donít prove anything.
    In a withering interview with The Washington Postís Philip Bump, who told DíSouza his entire indictment of the election is based on speculation and that heís ďnot making a persuasive case,Ē DíSouza replied, ďIím making a case that is completely persuasive to an independent observer who is not clouded, who is not trying to play defense attorney as you are for the Biden administration.Ē
    And that gives away the whole game. Anyone who isnít convinced by his evidence-bereft narrative that the election was stolen is either a ďBiden defense attorneyĒ or a cowardly Republican. (Early in the film, Dennis Prager is literally called a ďcowardĒ by one of his fellow right-wing panelists for saying heís ďagnosticĒ about voter fraud in the 2020 election.)
    DíSouza complains throughout the film about Republicans who just want to ďmove onĒówhich includes all the Republican election officials who investigated voter fraud claims in critical swing statesÖ and found absolutely nothing of note. He also whines about the Supreme Court (with a 6-3 majority and three Trump appointees) refusing to hear already-debunked claims of voter fraud.
    But after making his case, through relentless repetition of innuendo and almost no verifiable facts, the MAGA brain trust (Prager, Kirk, et al) reappears near the end of the film. All of them are aghast (especially Prager), breathing heavily after absorbing all of DíSouzaís supposedly unimpeachable evidence of a vast, multi-state conspiracy carried out on a granular level by thousands of paid agentsónone of whom have leaked their involvement to anyone, at all.
    DíSouzaís whining extends beyond the film itself, and into coverage of the film. Or in the case of Fox News and Newsmax, the lack of coverage around 2000 Mulesólikely because both networks have already been sued for pushing potentially slanderous Big Lie accusations against voting technology companies. (DíSouzaís white knight, Donald Trump, came to the filmís defense when he slammed Fox for ignoring ďthe greatest & most impactful documentary of our time.Ē)
    But even a Trump-supporting right-wing firebreather like Ben Shapiro canít bring himself to say DíSouza made a persuasive case with 2000 Mules, because the filmís central thesis simply isnít backed by any supporting evidenceómuch less an overwhelming amount of verifiable, unimpeachable data.
    Thereís no reason to watch 2000 Mules, unless you really are looking to be well-equipped to argue with your MAGA relatives at Thanksgiving. The film isnít meant to persuade anyone, itís meant to reinforce the already passionate certainty in people who believe in something that simply does not exist.
    It is a vile piece of agit-prop, pushing a falsehood that could very well tear our country apart. Itís also a very stupid movie, packaged as smart, fearless muckraking. In a sense, itís a 90-minute safe space for MAGA snowflakes who canít accept the fact that their hero is a loser.
    In the last 30 years of Presidential Elections, the Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE!!!

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    Its my observations that those who fell for this lie fall into one of two categories:

    1) They are simply to stupid to apply any critical thinking skills to the few facts presented in the movie and see any other conclusions than the ones spoon-fed to them.
    2) They are delusional to the point of mental illness and for whatever are able to repress reality so strongly they live a lie of their own creation because reality is to hard for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    https://apple.news/AbkWk7kD9QnGSUTROuDGpFw

    Dinesh D’Souza’s Vile Big Lie Documentary Is Too Stupid Even for Fox
    I watched this crap so you don’t have to—and, trust me, you don’t want to.

    There are a lot of reasons that Donald Trump’s Big Lie about voter fraud in the 2020 election is among the most despicable political acts in U.S. history.
    It’s poisoned the minds of millions of Americans—very likely permanently—into believing our elections can’t be trusted (unless Republicans win). It was the impetus for the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. It was the excuse to break the previously sacrosanct American tradition of a peaceful transfer of power.

    It’s tragic that this democracy-threatening hoax was perpetrated by a known compulsive liar—a corrupt businessman from a privileged upbringing, infamous for stiffing his working-class contractors. Trump had already falsely claimed a conspiracy of voter fraud in 2016 (the election he actually won), and then again for the entire 2020 presidential cycle when he blathered about unnamed forces conspiring to steal the election from him.
    Both times he sent the implicit message to his supporters: No election result is valid unless I win. And they believed this incoherent charlatan.
    The new documentary 2000 Mules (a Dinesh D’Souza Joint), is barely more credible than your average random conspiracy theory video on YouTube, but its production values attach to it a superficial seriousness. The film’s intended audience will see a rational “just asking questions” kinda guy (D’Souza) talking with some ideological allies (like Charlie Kirk, Dennis Prager, Sebastian Gorka, and Larry Elder) who are merely concerned about voter integrity in the America they love.
    But the bulk of the film consists of D’Souza’s highly dramatized explainer sessions with a couple of technological “experts” (also credited as executive producers) whose claims that they’ve used geotracking data to uncover thousands of vote-harvesting mules fall apart under the barest of scrutiny.
    Surveillance footage of people taking selfies after dropping their votes in dropboxes is presented as “A-ha!” evidence—while ignoring the fact that people taking voter selfies was a mundanely common thing to do in 2020 (and for quite a few years prior).
    Video clips of people dropping off a few ballots are presented as unimpeachable evidence of voter fraud, even though dropping ballots for family members was also common. And despite the repeated claims by the “experts” that they’ve tracked literally thousands of vote-dropping “mules”—not a single one of these supposed professional voter fraud foot soldiers is shown on screen making more than one drop.
    These are all things that even D’Souza later admitted don’t actually don’t prove anything.
    In a withering interview with The Washington Post’s Philip Bump, who told D’Souza his entire indictment of the election is based on speculation and that he’s “not making a persuasive case,” D’Souza replied, “I’m making a case that is completely persuasive to an independent observer who is not clouded, who is not trying to play defense attorney as you are for the Biden administration.”
    And that gives away the whole game. Anyone who isn’t convinced by his evidence-bereft narrative that the election was stolen is either a “Biden defense attorney” or a cowardly Republican. (Early in the film, Dennis Prager is literally called a “coward” by one of his fellow right-wing panelists for saying he’s “agnostic” about voter fraud in the 2020 election.)
    D’Souza complains throughout the film about Republicans who just want to “move on”—which includes all the Republican election officials who investigated voter fraud claims in critical swing states… and found absolutely nothing of note. He also whines about the Supreme Court (with a 6-3 majority and three Trump appointees) refusing to hear already-debunked claims of voter fraud.
    But after making his case, through relentless repetition of innuendo and almost no verifiable facts, the MAGA brain trust (Prager, Kirk, et al) reappears near the end of the film. All of them are aghast (especially Prager), breathing heavily after absorbing all of D’Souza’s supposedly unimpeachable evidence of a vast, multi-state conspiracy carried out on a granular level by thousands of paid agents—none of whom have leaked their involvement to anyone, at all.
    D’Souza’s whining extends beyond the film itself, and into coverage of the film. Or in the case of Fox News and Newsmax, the lack of coverage around 2000 Mules—likely because both networks have already been sued for pushing potentially slanderous Big Lie accusations against voting technology companies. (D’Souza’s white knight, Donald Trump, came to the film’s defense when he slammed Fox for ignoring “the greatest & most impactful documentary of our time.”)
    But even a Trump-supporting right-wing firebreather like Ben Shapiro can’t bring himself to say D’Souza made a persuasive case with 2000 Mules, because the film’s central thesis simply isn’t backed by any supporting evidence—much less an overwhelming amount of verifiable, unimpeachable data.
    There’s no reason to watch 2000 Mules, unless you really are looking to be well-equipped to argue with your MAGA relatives at Thanksgiving. The film isn’t meant to persuade anyone, it’s meant to reinforce the already passionate certainty in people who believe in something that simply does not exist.
    It is a vile piece of agit-prop, pushing a falsehood that could very well tear our country apart. It’s also a very stupid movie, packaged as smart, fearless muckraking. In a sense, it’s a 90-minute safe space for MAGA snowflakes who can’t accept the fact that their hero is a loser.
    TL; DR

    Do you actually have any personal input that's not copied and pasted?

    Unless you're Anthony L. Fisher, you copied the entire thing without any personal input whatsoever.

    Which one of these are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Its my observations that those who fell for this lie fall into one of two categories:

    1) They are simply to stupid to apply any critical thinking skills to the few facts presented in the movie and see any other conclusions than the ones spoon-fed to them.
    2) They are delusional to the point of mental illness and for whatever are able to repress reality so strongly they live a lie of their own creation because reality is to hard for them.
    I agree. I think 20% fall under #1 and the other 80% fall under #2
    In the last 30 years of Presidential Elections, the Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE!!!

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    You mean the criminal that Trump pardoned? That guy? Gosh, what a shocker he made yet another steaming pile of dogshit and tried to pass it off as a movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    You mean the criminal that Trump pardoned? That guy? Gosh, what a shocker he made yet another steaming pile of dogshit and tried to pass it off as a movie.
    Yep, that's the one. And MAGA claims they're the 'Law and Order' party. More bullshit.
    In the last 30 years of Presidential Elections, the Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE!!!

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    In the last 30 years of Presidential Elections, the Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    https://apple.news/AbkWk7kD9QnGSUTROuDGpFw

    Dinesh D’Souza’s Vile Big Lie Documentary Is Too Stupid Even for Fox
    I watched this crap so you don’t have to—and, trust me, you don’t want to.

    There are a lot of reasons that Donald Trump’s Big Lie about voter fraud in the 2020 election is among the most despicable political acts in U.S. history.
    It’s poisoned the minds of millions of Americans—very likely permanently—into believing our elections can’t be trusted (unless Republicans win). It was the impetus for the... ...it’s a 90-minute safe space for MAGA snowflakes who can’t accept the fact that their hero is a loser.
    You do know that the above violates board rule #5 as you posted the article in its entirety...

    That aside, I read the article. The author, Anthony Fischer, never makes any valid points in his criticism instead using what is really just an Appeal to the stone fallacy. He does this using thought terminating cliches (eg., Donald Trump's big lie, as one example), Bulverisms (Video clips of people dropping off a few ballots are presented as unimpeachable evidence of voter fraud, even though dropping ballots for family members was also common...), and circular logic.

    That's not to say D'Souza is right or wrong, just that this particular author never makes a case either way. Instead, his op ed amounts to being an unsupported hit piece hating on D'Souza along with the occasional Conservative the Left generally despises.

    To paraphrase the writer of this article, It is a vile piece of agit-prop, pushing a falsehood that could very well tear our country apart. It’s also a very stupid op ed, packaged as smart, fearless muckraking.

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    You're being conned, righties.

    One of the biggest "Big Cons" of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    https://apple.news/AbkWk7kD9QnGSUTROuDGpFw

    Dinesh D’Souza’s Vile Big Lie Documentary Is Too Stupid Even for Fox
    I watched this crap so you don’t have to—and, trust me, you don’t want to.

    There are a lot of reasons that Donald Trump’s Big Lie about voter fraud in the 2020 election is among the most despicable political acts in U.S. history.
    It’s poisoned the minds of millions of Americans—very likely permanently—into believing our elections can’t be trusted (unless Republicans win). It was the impetus for the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. It was the excuse to break the previously sacrosanct American tradition of a peaceful transfer of power.

    It’s tragic that this democracy-threatening hoax was perpetrated by a known compulsive liar—a corrupt businessman from a privileged upbringing, infamous for stiffing his working-class contractors. Trump had already falsely claimed a conspiracy of voter fraud in 2016 (the election he actually won), and then again for the entire 2020 presidential cycle when he blathered about unnamed forces conspiring to steal the election from him.
    Both times he sent the implicit message to his supporters: No election result is valid unless I win. And they believed this incoherent charlatan.
    The new documentary 2000 Mules (a Dinesh D’Souza Joint), is barely more credible than your average random conspiracy theory video on YouTube, but its production values attach to it a superficial seriousness. The film’s intended audience will see a rational “just asking questions” kinda guy (D’Souza) talking with some ideological allies (like Charlie Kirk, Dennis Prager, Sebastian Gorka, and Larry Elder) who are merely concerned about voter integrity in the America they love.
    But the bulk of the film consists of D’Souza’s highly dramatized explainer sessions with a couple of technological “experts” (also credited as executive producers) whose claims that they’ve used geotracking data to uncover thousands of vote-harvesting mules fall apart under the barest of scrutiny.
    Surveillance footage of people taking selfies after dropping their votes in dropboxes is presented as “A-ha!” evidence—while ignoring the fact that people taking voter selfies was a mundanely common thing to do in 2020 (and for quite a few years prior).
    Video clips of people dropping off a few ballots are presented as unimpeachable evidence of voter fraud, even though dropping ballots for family members was also common. And despite the repeated claims by the “experts” that they’ve tracked literally thousands of vote-dropping “mules”—not a single one of these supposed professional voter fraud foot soldiers is shown on screen making more than one drop.
    These are all things that even D’Souza later admitted don’t actually don’t prove anything.
    In a withering interview with The Washington Post’s Philip Bump, who told D’Souza his entire indictment of the election is based on speculation and that he’s “not making a persuasive case,” D’Souza replied, “I’m making a case that is completely persuasive to an independent observer who is not clouded, who is not trying to play defense attorney as you are for the Biden administration.”
    And that gives away the whole game. Anyone who isn’t convinced by his evidence-bereft narrative that the election was stolen is either a “Biden defense attorney” or a cowardly Republican. (Early in the film, Dennis Prager is literally called a “coward” by one of his fellow right-wing panelists for saying he’s “agnostic” about voter fraud in the 2020 election.)
    D’Souza complains throughout the film about Republicans who just want to “move on”—which includes all the Republican election officials who investigated voter fraud claims in critical swing states… and found absolutely nothing of note. He also whines about the Supreme Court (with a 6-3 majority and three Trump appointees) refusing to hear already-debunked claims of voter fraud.
    But after making his case, through relentless repetition of innuendo and almost no verifiable facts, the MAGA brain trust (Prager, Kirk, et al) reappears near the end of the film. All of them are aghast (especially Prager), breathing heavily after absorbing all of D’Souza’s supposedly unimpeachable evidence of a vast, multi-state conspiracy carried out on a granular level by thousands of paid agents—none of whom have leaked their involvement to anyone, at all.
    D’Souza’s whining extends beyond the film itself, and into coverage of the film. Or in the case of Fox News and Newsmax, the lack of coverage around 2000 Mules—likely because both networks have already been sued for pushing potentially slanderous Big Lie accusations against voting technology companies. (D’Souza’s white knight, Donald Trump, came to the film’s defense when he slammed Fox for ignoring “the greatest & most impactful documentary of our time.”)
    But even a Trump-supporting right-wing firebreather like Ben Shapiro can’t bring himself to say D’Souza made a persuasive case with 2000 Mules, because the film’s central thesis simply isn’t backed by any supporting evidence—much less an overwhelming amount of verifiable, unimpeachable data.
    There’s no reason to watch 2000 Mules, unless you really are looking to be well-equipped to argue with your MAGA relatives at Thanksgiving. The film isn’t meant to persuade anyone, it’s meant to reinforce the already passionate certainty in people who believe in something that simply does not exist.
    It is a vile piece of agit-prop, pushing a falsehood that could very well tear our country apart. It’s also a very stupid movie, packaged as smart, fearless muckraking. In a sense, it’s a 90-minute safe space for MAGA snowflakes who can’t accept the fact that their hero is a loser.
    It uses geo tracking the same technology Uber uses to find you. It also has actual video of mules stuffing ballot boxes. They didn't label anyone as a mule unless they visited at least one Liberal NGO and then visited at least 10 drop boxes. They have mules stuffing the ballot boxes wearing rubber gloves then disposing those gloves as soon as they had stuffed the ballot box. They didn't see anyone doing that until after a person was indicted for stuffing ballots and the authorities used finger prints. So a day after that the mules in Georgia started wearing gloves at their drops. They also had people taking pictures of ballot boxes. Who does that? A Whistleblower said some NGOs required photo proof of the illegal ballot deposit in the drop box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    It uses geo tracking the same technology Uber uses to find you. It also has actual video of mules stuffing ballot boxes. They didn't label anyone as a mule unless they visited at least one Liberal NGO and then visited at least 10 drop boxes. They have mules stuffing the ballot boxes wearing rubber gloves then disposing those gloves as soon as they had stuffed the ballot box. They didn't see anyone doing that until after a person was indicted for stuffing ballots and the authorities used finger prints. So a day after that the mules in Georgia started wearing gloves at their drops. They also had people taking pictures of ballot boxes. Who does that? A Whistleblower said some NGOs required photo proof of the illegal ballot deposit in the drop box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Do you actually have any personal input that's not copied and pasted?
    The truth is not innovative enough for you?
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    Dinesh D’Souza’s Vile Big Lie Documentary 2000 Mules Is Too Stupid Even for Fox

    https://apple.news/AbkWk7kD9QnGSUTROuDGpFw
    Apple news? That's about as credible as watching MSNBC. So did you watch the documentary? Of course you didn't. You prefer to remain and ignorant dimwit who parrots left wing lie filled narratives.

    Of course the liars on the left don't want Americans to become informed. The Party of Lying Jackasses needs willful idiots who will continue to vote for their economy killing inanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Its my observations that those who fell for this lie fall into one of two categories:

    1) They are simply to stupid to apply any critical thinking skills to the few facts presented in the movie and see any other conclusions than the ones spoon-fed to them.
    2) They are delusional to the point of mental illness and for whatever are able to repress reality so strongly they live a lie of their own creation because reality is to hard for them.
    Irony from a fool who thinks there was a Biden miracle. Whenever leftists engage in this malarky filled hyperbole, we know they are describing themselves.

    Yep, an unaccomplished, senile, corrupt, uncharismatic liar garnered far more votes than any President in the nations history.

    Hey, I have a bridge in Arizona to sell ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    I agree. I think 20% fall under #1 and the other 80% fall under #2
    Doesn't think he is a moron.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
    Author: Booker T. Washington



    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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