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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    No man is an island.
    Putting you on ignore. Enough with your insane blathering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Putting you on ignore. Enough with your insane blathering.
    Living well is the best revenge.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    Well, if you wake up in the morning, I figure that there's something going on that science can't explain. At that point, I ain't gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    If there were a proof of God, then you would no longer truly have free will. With God's existence proved, you either comply with God's commandments--God is usually considered omnipotent--or you are punished accordingly. For example, if God is proven and has stated "Obey my commandments or I will strike you dead..." then you really don't get much choice--other than one time--to disobey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    like this?....
    why don't you have faith?

    Because it requires circular logic

    why do you think it requires any logic at all?

    Because I don't have faith
    What other important belief would you base on faith instead of logic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    What other important belief would you base on faith instead of logic?
    I guess we've just confirmed you haven't understood what circular reasoning meant all this time....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I guess we've just confirmed you haven't understood what circular reasoning meant all this time....
    That's certainly not my conclusion, but that's OK.
    Be as religious as makes you happy. Just keep your faith away from the laws of my land. It doesn't belong there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    That's certainly not my conclusion, but that's OK.
    Be as religious as makes you happy. Just keep your faith away from the laws of my land. It doesn't belong there.
    when have we tried to make faith the law of the land.......just because we object to letting your ignorance being the law of land?......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    That's certainly not my conclusion, but that's OK.
    Be as religious as makes you happy. Just keep your faith away from the laws of my land. It doesn't belong there.
    While Russia's rootin' tootin' Putin's relentless attacks on Ukraine with Russian Orthodox Church are praised by Krill; there's still ongoing some 60 + years of SCOTUS Christian Nation malfeasance for it's Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom perpetual thieving US old glorys presented by Eisenhower arsonists blessed by "serve the Pope or die" thieving US Constitution arsonists interpretation of "one nation under God with equal justice under law".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    Depends on how you define god, but to me, there is clear proof in the existence of life, but I believe in a more generalized God than most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Well, if you wake up in the morning, I figure that there's something going on that science can't explain. At that point, I ain't gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
    I do not know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    If there were a proof of God, then you would no longer truly have free will. With God's existence proved, you either comply with God's commandments--God is usually considered omnipotent--or you are punished accordingly. For example, if God is proven and has stated "Obey my commandments or I will strike you dead..." then you really don't get much choice--other than one time--to disobey.
    Why is free will important?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Depends on how you define god, but to me, there is clear proof in the existence of life, but I believe in a more generalized God than most.
    We know we exist. That does need proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    when have we tried to make faith the law of the land.......just because we object to letting your ignorance being the law of land?......
    For one thing, your immoral misogynist views are being imposed as the law of the land.
    Fundamentalist Christian Republicans are almost without exception malignant tumors on the population when they become politically active.
    I cannot express the profundity of my disrespect for them in mere language.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    No. There's zero evidence of anything beyond the physical universe or magic.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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