Can there be a proof of God?

[BidenPresident]

I already realized that.

Think about it.

See if you can see any difference between "a god" and "God."

See if you can see any difference between the question, "Does God exist?" and "Does at least one god exist?"

Semantically, yes. But logically, seems to be a trivial distinction.

Maybe it is time for you to explain the definition of "a god."

[Frank Apisa]

Maybe our entire universe is a thought in the mind of a six year old in another universe. Why speculate on something that has no consequences?

I'm not. You are.

I am merely making the point that saying, "There can be no proof of any gods (if at least one god exists)...is illogical.

That has been my point and my only point here.

[BidenPresident]

I'm not. You are.

I am merely making the point that saying, "There can be no proof of any gods (if at least one god exists)...is illogical.

It is logical. It makes sense. You just do not agree with its meaning.

[Frank Apisa]

Semantically, yes. But logically, seems to be a trivial distinction.

It is NOT trivial at all.

The way you ask it, indicates that you are asking for proof of a "God" that you have in mind. Sorta like asking if there can be proof of the God of the Bible.

Asking if there can be proof of any gods that might exist...is substantially different.

Maybe it is time for you to explain the definition of "a god."

From my post #372:


*When I use the word "GOD or gods" here, I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF SUCH AN ENTITY OR ENTITIES ACTUALLY EXIST.

[Frank Apisa]

It is logical. It makes sense. You just do not agree with its meaning.

It does not make sense...and is illogical.

Contact a university near you and ask for a logician. He/she will explain to you why it is illogical.

[BidenPresident]

It is NOT trivial at all.

The way you ask it, indicates that you are asking for proof of a "God" that you have in mind. Sorta like asking if there can be proof of the God of the Bible.

Asking if there can be proof of any gods that might exist...is substantially different.


From my post #372:


*When I use the word "GOD or gods" here, I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF SUCH AN ENTITY OR ENTITIES ACTUALLY EXIST.

When someone refers to "the president," we don't ask if it is the president of Honduras in 1942. Commonly used words have a meaning.

[BidenPresident]

It does not make sense...and is illogical.

Contact a university near you and ask for a logician. He/she will explain to you why it is illogical.

Cut the ad hominem bullshit.

[BidenPresident]

*When I use the word "GOD or gods" here, I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF SUCH AN ENTITY OR ENTITIES ACTUALLY EXIST.[/B][/SIZE]

Yes. How I used "God" from the start.

[Frank Apisa]

There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.

I agree completely with "There is no proof or disproof of any God."

That is not what I have been discussing.

I have been discussing the assertion suggested that even if there are gods...there is no way for their existence to be proved.

But that is illogical. If the GOD or gods were able to make the hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy...and the hundreds of billions of other galaxies...and spread them over space so vast it takes billions of years for LIGHT to traverse it...

...it is at least possible those gods could prove to humans that they exist.

Saying that they cannot, if they exist, is illogical.

[Frank Apisa]

When someone refers to "the president," we don't ask if it is the president of Honduras in 1942. Commonly used words have a meaning.

What does that mean?

If you cannot see the difference between "Does God exist?" and "Do any gods exist?"...you are not equipped for this discussion.

[Frank Apisa]

Cut the ad hominem bullshit.

Fuck you!

If you want to discuss this topic...let's discuss it. If you want to get your panties in a wad, do it without me.

[BidenPresident]

What does that mean?

If you cannot see the difference between "Does God exist?" and "Do any gods exist?"...you are not equipped for this discussion.

Dude, you don't know what logic means. Logic is not a test of truth value. Quit pontificating.

[BidenPresident]

Fuck you!

If you want to discuss this topic...let's discuss it. If you want to get your panties in a wad, do it without me.

You're too emotional.

[Frank Apisa]

Yes. How I used "God" from the start.

You are just being obstinate now.

What I have said is correct.

[Frank Apisa]

Dude, you don't know what logic means. Logic is not a test of truth value. Quit pontificating.

Fuck you, again.

If you do not understand that your comment is illogical...then YOU are the one who does not understand logic.