Doc Dutch (05-22-2022)
Agreed on Spinoza's God...also Einstein's.
https://mindmatters.ai/2021/12/einst...o-is-that-god/
Note re Einstein and Spinoza’s God: “Einstein’s answer to a New York rabbi clears things up a bit. The rabbi cabled him in 1929 to ask him if he believed in God. Einstein replied, ‘I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings’…
“Spinoza used the provocative formulation Deus sive natura—“God, or nature”—but he actually regarded nature as just the visible, comprehensible aspect of God’s infinite, incomprehensible being. One consequence is that everything that happens in nature, and everything that nature’s lawful order dishes out to us personally, is necessary—the way the conclusion of a logical or mathematical demonstration is necessary.” – Lawrence Klepp, Washington Examiner (January 23, 2012).
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Cypress (05-22-2022)
I think fundamental physics and mathematics can give us glimpses into an ultimate truth, especially if one steps back and considers the metaphysical implications, and that's where I come down with team-Einstein.
In terms of traditional religion and living with a metaphysical moral vision, I have learned a lot from Christianity, Buddhism, Confucianism. It's helped me clarify, distill, and focus.
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