Can there be a proof of God?

[BidenPresident]

I do not think so.

All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

[Jade Dragon]

I do not think so.

All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.

[BidenPresident]

There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.

Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.

[Cypress]

I do not think so.

All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.”

[BidenPresident]

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.”

uh huh

[Jade Dragon]

Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.

Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.

[AProudLefty]

I do not think so.

All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

Have to define God first.

[BidenPresident]

Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.

Agree. Yet it is the origin of the Christian religion. Arguments were given by Anselm, Aquinas, and Austine.

[BidenPresident]

Have to define God first.

Seems rather obvious.

[PostmodernProphet]

I do not think so.

All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

proof to who?....all the angels have been convinced......

[PostmodernProphet]

Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
Have to define God first.

if you think you get to define him, you've already confirmed you don't believe he exists.....

[PostmodernProphet]

Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
Have to define God first.

Seems rather obvious.

obviously, if there IS a God, she'll be defining you.......

[Cypress]

Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.

To my knowledge, no person of any importance has tried to offer a proof of God since the 17th century philosopher Rene Descartes.

It has been widely understood for centuries that no scientific method, no empirical observation, no inductive logic can prove the existence of an Abrahamistic God, a Brahman, a Dao, or a samsara. We can't even really explain what the laws of physics mean; all we can do is derive rules and equations to describe them.

[AProudLefty]

if you think you get to define him, you've already confirmed you don't believe he exists.....

So you have no clue.

[zymurgy]

Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.

they let Thomas off the hook. why not me?