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    Default Can there be a proof of God?

    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.
    Agree. Yet it is the origin of the Christian religion. Arguments were given by Anselm, Aquinas, and Austine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.
    To my knowledge, no person of any importance has tried to offer a proof of God since the 17th century philosopher Rene Descartes.

    It has been widely understood for centuries that no scientific method, no empirical observation, no inductive logic can prove the existence of an Abrahamistic God, a Brahman, a Dao, or a samsara. We can't even really explain what the laws of physics mean; all we can do is derive rules and equations to describe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.
    Irony. A Christian who thinks not sharing their experience is what God wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.
    they let Thomas off the hook. why not me?

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    What does your heart say?
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.
    God exists for those crooks on Capital Hill as this Christian Nation SCOTUS Christiananality pedophilia relies on their pseudoscience truth of Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate enforcement administering their suicidal interpretation of "one nation under God with equal justice under law" medical administration "man is God" super egos thieving US Constitutions - old glorys - old testaments arsonists under color of law in little more than a Peter Principle pyramid scheme in sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming of their national religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.
    The same can be said for Peter Pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.
    I agree completely with "There is no proof or disproof of any God."

    That is not what I have been discussing.

    I have been discussing the assertion suggested that even if there are gods...there is no way for their existence to be proved.

    But that is illogical. If the GOD or gods were able to make the hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy...and the hundreds of billions of other galaxies...and spread them over space so vast it takes billions of years for LIGHT to traverse it...

    ...it is at least possible those gods could prove to humans that they exist.

    Saying that they cannot, if they exist, is illogical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I agree completely with "There is no proof or disproof of any God."

    That is not what I have been discussing.

    I have been discussing the assertion suggested that even if there are gods...there is no way for their existence to be proved.

    But that is illogical. If the GOD or gods were able to make the hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy...and the hundreds of billions of other galaxies...and spread them over space so vast it takes billions of years for LIGHT to traverse it...

    ...it is at least possible those gods could prove to humans that they exist.

    Saying that they cannot, if they exist, is illogical.
    There's absolute proof to a Holy Spirit filled believer.
    A nonbeliever has no chance understanding how God chose to tell his story to mankind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender of Honor View Post
    There's absolute proof to a Holy Spirit filled believer.
    A nonbeliever has no chance understanding how God chose to tell his story to mankind.
    Horse shit.
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