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    Default Can there be a proof of God?

    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    There is no proof or disproof of any God. It's that simple, so I don't know why people even try to debate it.
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.”
    uh huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    Have to define God first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.
    Agree. Yet it is the origin of the Christian religion. Arguments were given by Anselm, Aquinas, and Austine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Have to define God first.
    Seems rather obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think so.

    All proofs of God presuppose you already believe.
    proof to who?....all the angels have been convinced......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Have to define God first.
    if you think you get to define him, you've already confirmed you don't believe he exists.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Have to define God first.
    Seems rather obvious.
    obviously, if there IS a God, she'll be defining you.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Even though I'm a Christian myself, I never understood some people's need to convince others. It's a fruitless debate for believers and non-believers alike.
    To my knowledge, no person of any importance has tried to offer a proof of God since the 17th century philosopher Rene Descartes.

    It has been widely understood for centuries that no scientific method, no empirical observation, no inductive logic can prove the existence of an Abrahamistic God, a Brahman, a Dao, or a samsara. We can't even really explain what the laws of physics mean; all we can do is derive rules and equations to describe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    if you think you get to define him, you've already confirmed you don't believe he exists.....
    So you have no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Because the Christian religion relies on the truth of God's existence.
    they let Thomas off the hook. why not me?

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