Can there be a proof of God?

[American Man]

If you want to talk about religion could you please start your own thread?

There is no proof for a god, nor can there be any proof. I guess that ends this thread.

[BidenPresident]

There is no proof for a god, nor can there be any proof. I guess that ends this thread.

Ends it for you. Thank you.

[PostmodernProphet]

There sources explaining the evolution of Yahweh and Judaism:

Sommer, B. (2009). Appendix: Monotheism and Polytheism in Ancient Israel. In The Bodies of God and the World of Ancient Israel(pp. 145-174). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

Mayes, A.D.H. 2002 ‘Kuntillet ‘Ajrud and the History of Israelite Religion’, in Bartlett, J.R. (ed.), Archaeology and Biblical Interpretation (London: Routledge 2002) p. 52.

"Cult Places, Israelite" Encyclopaedia Judaica; Encyclopedia.com. 25 Apr. 2022 <https://www.encyclopedia.com

sorry......unless you have an argument based on fact rather than your faith in three books you have nothing.......

[PostmodernProphet]

I was answering the guy who demanded proof that Yahweh started out as a minor Canaanite deity.

then you should have answered with proof......I will wait.....

[PostmodernProphet]

Wait. You believe that the god of the Bible is real?

do you believe atheist's opinions about YHWH are real?......

[PostmodernProphet]

You misspelled AProudLefty

to be fair I cannot choose between APL and BP.....they are both exceptionally dumb trolls......and then there is American Man.....

[PostmodernProphet]

We can pick apart the Bible right here if you'd like. What shall we discuss? My favorite is Moses.

/shrugs.....are you going to use the opinions of atheists there as well?......

[PostmodernProphet]

There is no proof for a god, nor can there be any proof. I guess that ends this thread.

there is no proof that YHWH started as a Canaanite deity rather than being an eternal creating God.......so I guess that ends your rather meager contribution to it....

[Mason Michaels]

We can pick apart the Bible right here if you'd like. What shall we discuss? My favorite is Moses.

Explain why the Holy Spirit is alive and well!

[American Man]

Explain why the Holy Spirit is alive and well!

Lol.

[American Man]

there is no proof that YHWH started as a Canaanite deity rather than being an eternal creating God.......so I guess that ends your rather meager contribution to it....

Sure there is.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs...09089209105686

[American Man]

/shrugs.....are you going to use the opinions of atheists there as well?......

We can talk about the absurdity of Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land, which, at the time that the story of Moses allegedly takes place, would have still been part of the Egyptian Empire. Or the fact that there's no record of a mass exodus from Egypt, or any record of any plagues, etc.

My favorite absurdity is the claim that 600,000 Jews were led by Moses during the Exodus. The Bible specifies this as 600,000 men, plus their wives and children and servants.

It doesn't tell us the number of wives or children or servants. But let's be super conservative (because even with super conservative numbers, this story is still hilarious) and only assume that 25% of the men had wives. That would be an additional 150,000 people. So:

600,000 men + 150,000 women = 750,000.

And if we assume that only 25% of those couples had children -- say one boy and one girl each -- that's an additional 300,000 people.

750,000 adults + 300,000 children = 1,050,000 people.

Keeping our numbers super conservative, we're at over 1 million people. And we haven't even gotten to the servants yet!

The problem is that, at the time the Exodus is alleged to have occurred, Egypt's population was 3.5 million.

If we're to believe the Bible, we would need to believe that at least 1/3 of Egypt's entire population just got up and left. If this had happened, there would have been dire socioeconomic repercussions for Egypt.

And yet . . . .

There's no record anywhere of Egypt facing such a socioeconomic disaster.

[Mason Michaels]

We can talk about the absurdity of Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land, which, at the time that the story of Moses allegedly takes place, would have still been part of the Egyptian Empire. Or the fact that there's no record of a mass exodus from Egypt, or any record of any plagues, etc.

My favorite absurdity is the claim that 600,000 Jews were led by Moses during the Exodus. The Bible specifies this as 600,000 men, plus their wives and children and servants.

It doesn't tell us the number of wives or children or servants. But let's be super conservative (because even with super conservative numbers, this story is still hilarious) and only assume that 25% of the men had wives. That would be an additional 150,000 people. So:

600,000 men + 150,000 women = 750,000.

And if we assume that only 25% of those couples had children -- say one boy and one girl each -- that's an additional 300,000 people.

750,000 adults + 300,000 children = 1,050,000 people.

Keeping our numbers super conservative, we're at over 1 million people. And we haven't even gotten to the servants yet!

The problem is that, at the time the Exodus is alleged to have occurred, Egypt's population was 3.5 million.

If we're to believe the Bible, we would need to believe that at least 1/3 of Egypt's entire population just got up and left. If this had happened, there would have been dire socioeconomic repercussions for Egypt.

And yet . . . .

There's no record anywhere of Egypt facing such a socioeconomic disaster.

It wasn't in the news papers?

[AProudLefty]

More proof you are the dumbest thread troll on the forum.

Address the topic, not other posters.

[PostmodernProphet]

Sure there is.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs...09089209105686

???.....that link argues that YHWH was worshipped by the Canaanites based on two facts....YHWH is considered a "mysterious lonely deity" (whatever that is supposed to mean) and the Israelites melted down a bit of copper and bronze to make a serpent they raised on a stick in Genesis......rather bizarre to extract only those two facts out of the entire Bible to draw out a rather tenuous connection...........beyond that, it does not "prove" anything about origin......YHWH was a deity at creation, he was a deity when he created the tribe of Israel..........I believe you planned to prove that he was created by the Canaanites.........I can still wait....

a reminder.....

We know that Yahweh started out as a minor deity of the Canaanite pantheon.