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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You are correct.

    My guess is you have not put the effort into seeking Zeus.

    If you did...REALLY, TRULY DID...

    ...you'd find him.
    Exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    You'll never know till you seek God.
    Seek Zeus...REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, TRULY SEEK ZEUS...

    ...and you will find him.

    If you do not, it is because you did not truly seek him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You are correct.

    My guess is you have not put the effort into seeking Zeus.

    If you did...REALLY, TRULY DID...

    ...you'd find him.
    Funny how we discover things we already believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Funny how we discover things we already believe.
    That's a contradiction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    Exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    That's a contradiction
    It is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    It is not.
    I'm sure you think that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    I'm sure you think that
    I'm sure you don't understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    Nothing will convince you ,because you don't seek God!
    And you'll never find God till you seek God.
    Actually, I have made a lot of progress in the last 20 years trying to get some indirect glimpses and insights into any ultimate truths, but my experience might be more along the lines of Spinoza's God rather than Abraham's God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Actually, I have made a lot of progress in the last 20 years trying to get some indirect glimpses and insights into any ultimate truths, but my experience might be more along the lines of Spinoza's God rather than Abraham's God.
    Agreed on Spinoza's God...also Einstein's.

    https://mindmatters.ai/2021/12/einst...o-is-that-god/

    Note re Einstein and Spinoza’s God: “Einstein’s answer to a New York rabbi clears things up a bit. The rabbi cabled him in 1929 to ask him if he believed in God. Einstein replied, ‘I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings’…

    “Spinoza used the provocative formulation Deus sive natura—“God, or nature”—but he actually regarded nature as just the visible, comprehensible aspect of God’s infinite, incomprehensible being. One consequence is that everything that happens in nature, and everything that nature’s lawful order dishes out to us personally, is necessary—the way the conclusion of a logical or mathematical demonstration is necessary.” – Lawrence Klepp, Washington Examiner (January 23, 2012).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Actually, I have made a lot of progress in the last 20 years trying to get some indirect glimpses and insights into any ultimate truths, but my experience might be more along the lines of Spinoza's God rather than Abraham's God.
    I suppose you don't know how silly that sounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    I suppose you don't know how silly that sounds.
    I don't know. Please 'splain it to me, Lucy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    I suppose you don't know how silly that sounds.
    Just as silly as your inanities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed on Spinoza's God...also Einstein's.

    https://mindmatters.ai/2021/12/einst...o-is-that-god/

    Note re Einstein and Spinoza’s God: “Einstein’s answer to a New York rabbi clears things up a bit. The rabbi cabled him in 1929 to ask him if he believed in God. Einstein replied, ‘I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings’…

    “Spinoza used the provocative formulation Deus sive natura—“God, or nature”—but he actually regarded nature as just the visible, comprehensible aspect of God’s infinite, incomprehensible being. One consequence is that everything that happens in nature, and everything that nature’s lawful order dishes out to us personally, is necessary—the way the conclusion of a logical or mathematical demonstration is necessary.” – Lawrence Klepp, Washington Examiner (January 23, 2012).
    I think fundamental physics and mathematics can give us glimpses into an ultimate truth, especially if one steps back and considers the metaphysical implications, and that's where I come down with team-Einstein.

    In terms of traditional religion and living with a metaphysical moral vision, I have learned a lot from Christianity, Buddhism, Confucianism. It's helped me clarify, distill, and focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    I suppose you don't know how silly that sounds.
    I am way past the age of caring if people I don't know and have never met don't like my opinion.

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