Where are Ukraine's refugees going?

[moon]

Where are Ukraine's refugees going?
Refugees are also crossing to neighbouring countries to the west, mostly Poland.

The UN says that as of 17 May, 6.3 million people have left Ukraine:

Poland has taken in 3,396,792 refugees
Romania 930,341
Russia 863,086
Hungary 615,256
Moldova 465,435
Slovakia 426,605
Belarus 27,308
Some people have travelled from Moldova into Romania and so are included in both countries' totals.

Poland, Hungary and Slovakia are part of the Schengen area, where there are no internal border controls.

This means many of those counted when they initially crossed into these countries may have since travelled to other places.

The Czech Republic said that as of 17 May, it had granted 346,770 emergency visas to Ukrainian refugees.

Germany said that as of 14 May, more than 700,000 Ukrainians had arrived in the country, 40% of whom were children.

Some Ukrainians have travelled to Russia from the pro-Russian breakaway regions of Luhansk and Donetsk in the east. Others have been evacuated to Russia from war-torn cities such as Mariupol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-60555472

Western war-mongers would rather not concede that a great many Ukrainians are pro-Russian . Of that number many want to become part of the Russian Federation. This catastrophe actually started as a Ukrainian civil war stoked by the CIA.

The Russians stated some time ago that over a million Ukrainian refugees had chosen to go to Russia. This is in addition to the millions of the pro-Russian inhabitants of the Donbas who have chosen to stay put now that NATO has forced Russia to recognize the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, the point being that Ukraine is never going to regain the territories whose populations see themselves as Russian- unless the Ukrainian neo-Nazis want to exterminate them- as they've been trying to do for the past eight years.
Ultimately, Ukraine will have been diminished and , at best, will become a Western passenger state requiring , it has been mooted, upwards of fifty billion dollars every month in Western hand-outs .

The rights of pro-Russian Ukrainians should have been recognized from the start and the CIA should never have initiated a coup against the pro-Russian elected government. Additionally, Russia's requests to have its security guaranteed should have been answered, not ignored.
In short, the whole shebang is one unnecessary and avoidable, NATO-initiated clusterfuck and the losers are, once again, us- the civilians and tax-payers.

[goat]

Dems are officially the war party. They want to bring nuclear wokeness to the entire world.

[Mina]

In short, the whole shebang is one unnecessary and avoidable, NATO-initiated clusterfuck and the losers are, once again, us- the civilians and tax-payers.

No, the whole shebang is one unnecessary and avoidable Putin-initiated clusterfuck. NATO did not fucking invade anyone. That was Russia. Blaming this on NATO makes about as much sense as blaming Hitler's invasion of Poland on the Allies. Expansionist war criminals like Hitler and Putin are going to look for an excuse to grab territory, but really the only excuse they need is a sense that they'll get away with it. If NATO had accepted Ukraine into the alliance, it would be at peace today. But because we left them vulnerable to Putin, they're at war. Simple as that.

[Mina]

Dems are officially the war party. They want to bring nuclear wokeness to the entire world.

That's funny to hear, after the right-wingers spent much of 2021 bleating like sodomized goats because Biden ended their forever war in Afghanistan.

[dukkha]

Western war-mongers would rather not concede that a great many Ukrainians are pro-Russian . Of that number many want to become part of the Russian Federation. This catastrophe actually started as a Ukrainian civil war stoked by the CIA.

I dont know about the CIA. I do know the US State Dept was upto it's eyeballs on the ground at the Maidan
Vicky Nuland ( and her cupcakes) Robert Kagan, and of course John McCain with Svoboda


Oleh Tyahnybok is seen to his right.

[dukkha]

If NATO had accepted Ukraine into the alliance, it would be at peace today. But because we left them vulnerable to Putin, they're at war. Simple as that.

Ukraine was too corrupt to get into NATO...jesus you are spamming so much disinfo

Biden Says Ukraine Has Work to Do on Corruption to Get Into NATO
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-get-into-nato

[goat]

That's funny to hear, after the right-wingers spent much of 2021 bleating like sodomized goats because Biden ended their forever war in Afghanistan.

We are at war with Russia and it was dems who led the way.

[moon]

No, the whole shebang is one unnecessary and avoidable Putin-initiated clusterfuck. NATO did not fucking invade anyone. That was Russia. Blaming this on NATO makes about as much sense as blaming Hitler's invasion of Poland on the Allies.

It makes far more sense than you're ever likely to concede. Hitler, you probably aren't aware, came to power on the back of German resentment to paying WW1 war reparations.

[Mina]

Ukraine was too corrupt to get into NATO...jesus you are spamming so much disinfo

Biden Says Ukraine Has Work to Do on Corruption to Get Into NATO
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-get-into-nato

You seem to imagine that your non sequitur disputes one of my points. Try rereading.

[Mina]

We are at war with Russia and it was dems who led the way.

We are not at war with Russia. Russia is at war with Ukraine. We are merely helping Ukraine defend itself.

[Farah]

There are many Ukranian plate cars in Turkiye, there are also at least 10.000 Russian in my city.