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    I don't understand why anyone would want to impede scientific progress.

    Oh, wait. The naysayers are Republicans. Nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The state government of Louisiana says EV's and hybrids aren't paying their fair share of road use taxes mostly paid by gasoline sales. The legislature there just passed a bill that will impose a tax of $110 annually on an EV and $60 on a hybrid for road use. So, on top of paying more for your car, you get no tax break from not using gasoline...

    https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...ee/9800575002/
    Indeed.

    They must pay their "fair share" of taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Can they tow my 5th wheel?
    Only downhill...
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    I don't understand why anyone would want to impede scientific progress.

    Oh, wait. The naysayers are Republicans. Nevermind.
    Electric cars have existed since at least 1834, long before gasoline cars were invented. They didn't work then...

    Look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    Lol. Gasoline isn't going to last forever. And yes, global warming is real. The only radicals are the right-wingers who can't even walk outside without accusing their own shadow of being fake news.
    Yea, yea, sure it isn't... The Greentards have been saying that since the 70's and we have more known and untapped oil resources today than we did then. Oil is also a renewable resource. You can make it from algae for example. More is being formed daily, even if it takes nature thousands of years to finish the product. The bottom of our oceans are littered with gigatons of frozen methane that will eventually turn into oil.

    https://www.livescience.com/65798-fr...C%20she%20said.

    The radicals are the Leftist Greentards, and their scientific illiterate supporters who don't know shit about energy, energy production, and believe insanities like all pollution standards should be zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Indeed.

    They must pay their "fair share" of taxes.
    Except when that impacts the Left. Then they're opposed to taxes, just like the rest of us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The state government of Louisiana says EV's and hybrids aren't paying their fair share of road use taxes mostly paid by gasoline sales. The legislature there just passed a bill that will impose a tax of $110 annually on an EV and $60 on a hybrid for road use. So, on top of paying more for your car, you get no tax break from not using gasoline...

    https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...ee/9800575002/
    Will they have road agents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    I don't understand why anyone would want to impede scientific progress.

    Oh, wait. The naysayers are Republicans. Nevermind.
    Where the money to maintain roads and bridges going to come from if a majority drive electric cars?

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    Hmm.. Do you think all the money from gasoline sales goes to taxes?

    An EV costs on average $0.04 per mile for the electricity. Currently an ICE vehicle that gets 30mpg will cost about $0.13. Adding in the cost of the use tax for the EV adds about $.011 per mile

    So you pay a 20% premium on the car and then get an annual savings of $900.

    Buying a Nissan Leaf vs a Honda Fit
    Leaf - $27,000 - $7,500 tax credit - $19,500
    Fit - $16,000

    Difference of $3,500

    Annual fuel costs for 10,000 miles
    Leaf - $400
    Fit - $1300

    Leaf saves $900 per year in fuel


    Annual oil change/air filter savings
    Leaf - $0
    Fit - $150

    Leaf saves by needing no oil changes.

    By year four the Leaf has cost you less than buying the Fit. Pretty simple math for anyone that keeps their car for the average 6 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Hardly your most pressing problem now is it?
    I didn't leave the Republican party- they left me when they became the party of the immoral and hateful insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Hmm.. Do you think all the money from gasoline sales goes to taxes?

    An EV costs on average $0.04 per mile for the electricity. Currently an ICE vehicle that gets 30mpg will cost about $0.13. Adding in the cost of the use tax for the EV adds about $.011 per mile

    So you pay a 20% premium on the car and then get an annual savings of $900.

    Buying a Nissan Leaf vs a Honda Fit
    Leaf - $27,000 - $7,500 tax credit - $19,500
    Fit - $16,000

    Difference of $3,500

    Annual fuel costs for 10,000 miles
    Leaf - $400
    Fit - $1300

    Leaf saves $900 per year in fuel


    Annual oil change/air filter savings
    Leaf - $0
    Fit - $150

    Leaf saves by needing no oil changes.

    By year four the Leaf has cost you less than buying the Fit. Pretty simple math for anyone that keeps their car for the average 6 years.
    Factor that $7,500 back in because that's OPM and a government bribe. It isn't Monopoly money like you make it out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Factor that $7,500 back in because that's OPM and a government bribe. It isn't Monopoly money like you make it out to be.
    So now the Leaf is cheaper than a Fit if you keep your car for over 8 years since you save $1050 a year in fuel and oil, a $600 brake job and $1800 for spark plugs and other fluids needed for the 30K, 60K and 90K maintenance.

    The math is pretty easy for someone willing to do it. (Assumes all other maintenance is the same but one extra brake job because the fit has regenerative braking.)

    Leaf - $27000
    Fit - $16000 + (8 x 1050) + 600 + 1800 = $26800
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    So now the Leaf is cheaper than a Fit if you keep your car for over 8 years since you save $1050 a year in fuel and oil, a $600 brake job and $1800 for spark plugs and other fluids needed for the 30K, 60K and 90K maintenance.

    The math is pretty easy for someone willing to do it. (Assumes all other maintenance is the same but one extra brake job because the fit has regenerative braking.)

    Leaf - $27000
    Fit - $16000 + (8 x 1050) + 600 + 1800 = $26800
    Except for the Leaf needing that battery change...

    That's currently $5,500 not including labor. The odds aren't good on it going much longer than that depending on where you live. Of course, that's way better than a Tesla...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Factor that $7,500 back in because that's OPM and a government bribe. It isn't Monopoly money like you make it out to be.
    The left are only capable of repeating twitter math. Other than that they have a hard time even counting to twenty if they take off their shoes.

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    ROFLMAO I love it when people try to turn the clock back. The buggy whip manufacturers hated automobiles. Should we return to horses?
    Some people are doing just that, to avoid high fuel prices.
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