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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    on point - like upholding the right to harrass me outside of my place of residence?
    We're talking about protests, not harassment. Try to focus, little one.

    you reread shit head. you claimed this is exactly what they feared.
    What makes you think that? Be specific, please.

    they did not fear their state
    What makes you think I said they did? Be specific, please.

    you are a huge liar.
    What lie is it that you think I told? If you could quote the exact statement you think was a lie, that would be helpful.

    also a retard....
    Yes, I agree you seem a little mentally delayed, but don't worry about it. I can patiently walk you through this at a pace you can handle, if you'll just be specific in identifying which parts of what I said confused you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    We're talking about protests, not harassment. Try to focus, little one.
    "mostly peaceful protests" lmao. sure thing partisan doucebag

    What makes you think that? Be specific, please.
    your words. we are discussing what states can do and you - a retard - said

    Quote Originally Posted by retard
    These are EXACTLY the things the founders had in mind with the First Amendment.
    a state limiting speech is not what they had in mind retard


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    DuhSantis probably trying to protect himself and his cronies from whatever election shenanigans they plan to perpetrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    "mostly peaceful protests"
    Who are you quoting?

    your words.

    Specifically, which ones?

    a state limiting speech is not what they had in mind retard
    They were attempting to protect the right to political protests. In the Constitution, the founders were focused on the federal government, but founders also were involved in some state constitutions. For example, the Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont state constitutions date to the era and have very similar language protecting free speech and peaceable assembly. So, it's clear what the founders would have thought about attempts to abridge those rights, whether carried out by the federal government, or by some tin-pot governor of a backwater state like Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    They were attempting to protect the right to political protests. In the Constitution, the founders were focused on the federal government, but founders also were involved in some state constitutions. For example, the Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont state constitutions date to the era and have very similar language protecting free speech and peaceable assembly. So, it's clear what the founders would have thought about attempts to abridge those rights, whether carried out by the federal government, or by some tin-pot governor of a backwater state like Florida.
    the founders founded a central government for the purpose of national defense. The founders would of been fine with citizens of the state banning you from protesting outside of my home.

    so which are you:

    A liar

    B ignorant

    C both

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    the founders founded a central government for the purpose of national defense.
    That was among their several goals. They also founded it to promote the general welfare and establish justice. It wasn't just a mutual defense treaty among sovereign nations. It was an attempt to form a more perfect union than had been accomplished with the articles of confederation.

    I feel like I should be charging. So much of online discourse consists of liberals giving wingnuts a free education when it comes to basic civics material they should have gotten in elementary school. It's sad how woefully ignorant many Americans are of their own history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    That was among their several goals. They also founded it to promote the general welfare and establish justice. It wasn't just a mutual defense treaty among sovereign nations. It was an attempt to form a more perfect union than had been accomplished with the articles of confederation.

    I feel like I should be charging. So much of online discourse consists of liberals giving wingnuts a free education when it comes to basic civics material they should have gotten in elementary school. It's sad how woefully ignorant many Americans are of their own history.
    so you are an ignorant, retarded narcissist. what a combo

    to show how absurd your claims are - states had established churches - and the founders were fine with it.

    so yeah - you lost the debate. the founders did not agree with your concerns of 1st amendment powers in their respective states

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    ....what a combo....
    Yes, establishing justice, promoting the general welfare, and forming a more perfect union are a terrific combo of goals.

    to show how absurd your claims are - states had established churches - and the founders were fine with it.
    Which claim, specifically, do you think that contradicts?

    I understand it's hard to be losing this debate so badly, but please try to resist the urge to run away, like most right-wingers. Try to answer honestly and specifically, and we can start to identify your errors and to remedy them. I'd hate to just leave you in this state of abject ignorance of civics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Yes, establishing justice, promoting the general welfare, and forming a more perfect union are a terrific combo of goals.



    Which claim, specifically, do you think that contradicts?

    I understand it's hard to be losing this debate so badly, but please try to resist the urge to run away, like most right-wingers. Try to answer honestly and specifically, and we can start to identify your errors and to remedy them. I'd hate to just leave you in this state of abject ignorance of civics.
    the same one as before shit stain

    you want to believe this would of outraged the founders - it would not. they would be outraged by you - not this

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    the same one as before....
    Which one is that, specifically?

    you want to believe this would of outraged the founders - it would not
    They would definitely have opposed the idea of a government trying to block people from peaceably assembling to make their political voices heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minatard
    Which one is that, specifically?
    Quote Originally Posted by minitard
    help, where am
    debating a tard always goes like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yet oddly enough you don't see LW governors rushing to sign legislation banning that evil practice, do you? There's a reason why the Reichwing is righteously seen as fascist. This move by FL is a good example. Maybe he'll invite those two gun tards from STL who waved their bang-bangs at peaceful protesters *walking in the street* a few years back, to come down for a photo-op.
    DeSantis is certainly one sided.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
    Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
    Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    the same one as before shit stain

    you want to believe this would of outraged the founders - it would not. they would be outraged by you - not this
    Prove it, fuckwit.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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