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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    We have a constitutional right to protest in front of private property, no state can take that away. It's usually media who set up camp with news vans, lighting, and your phone number so if a governor wants to end protesting, they also have to end media rights too.

    Julian Assange and countless other journalists are being locked up or murdered for believing they have constitutional rights.
    Well, Julian Assange is facing Conspiracy to Cyber HACKING CRIMES! That right off the bat! Cyber Hacks are crimes and Posting or the RE-posting of Hacked information is against the law. It is a crime to use stolen property- most especially for profit or political gain. ALSO, Julian Assange, is indicted on 17 counts of violating the Espionage Act for his role in obtaining and publishing secret military and diplomatic documents in 2010.

    I agree with you on all the other comments!

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    Protests Outside People's Homes (Residential Picketing) and the First Amendment
    They can be banned, so long as the ban is content-neutral, and so long as people remain free to generally march through the neighborhood (as opposed to protesting right outside the target's home)
    https://reason.com/volokh/2020/08/15...rst-amendment/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Well, Julian Assange is facing Conspiracy to Cyber HACKING CRIMES! That right off the bat! Cyber Hacks are crimes and Posting or the RE-posting of Hacked information is against the law. It is a crime to use stolen property- most especially for profit or political gain. ALSO, Julian Assange, is indicted on 17 counts of violating the Espionage Act for his role in obtaining and publishing secret military and diplomatic documents in 2010.

    I agree with you on all the other comments!
    A foreigner can't be indicted for espionage. The war criminals Assange exposed haven't been prosecuted and are now instigating WW3. Government is out of control. Read up on Steven Donziger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    About 200 of the 700 capitol protesters were violent and only after they were hit with stun grenades and pepper spray. Legacy media never tells you how or why the violence started. The 500 peaceful protesters are still being help in jail without bail.
    Those who didn't trespass or commit any other crimes aren't in jail. The problem are those who broke the law in order to try to overturn our election. The media does indeed say how and why the violence started -- and you can watch it play out in real time in the videos. The crooks who stormed the Capitol as part of the planned Putsch put Capitol police in a position where they had to use stun grenades, pepper spray, etc., in order to try to defend the lives of our representatives. Thank goodness they succeeded.

    At this point, what really worries me is that this will be like the Bierhall Putsch. As you'll recall, the Nazis launched a 1/6-style attempt to seize the government, which failed when authorities on the scene managed to push them back. But, unfortunately, the traitors were given mere slaps on the wrist, despite the fact the Putsch, like the one on 1/6, had turned deadly. Even Hitler himself got nothing but a few months in jail, during which time he was allowed to write Mein Kampf and to continue rallying his political movement.

    What happens when you let such people off without serious consequences is that they see it as an invitation to try again, and next time they will be better prepared. A decade after the Nazis failed to seize power, they succeeded, and the rest was an unimaginable catastrophe for all humanity.

    Will we make the same mistake? It certainly seems possible. The ring leader hasn't even seen a day behind bars, this time, so we're doing even worse than the German authorities did with regard to Trump's predecessor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Trying to intimidate a judge into ruling the way you want him to is obstruction of justice.
    Signs and chalk messages are intimidation? You truly are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    courts have long distinguished between sidewalks and public property used by a business vs an individual - thankfully.
    Your link deals with assembly on private property, which is a different queston than we're discussing here. Try to focus.

    also - the Sons of liberty understood the bill of rights only applied to the Federal Government - not the states.
    Nobody is arguing otherwise. But now the first amendment definitely applies to the state and has for a very, very long time. What DeSantis is attempting here is using government power to block the exercise of First Amendment rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    History proves you wrong


    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nine-blm-...be-any-charges


    https://news.yahoo.com/protestors-ar...115758410.html

    Protesters trespass regularly, damn near universally. It's part of what they do, particularly Leftist protests.
    So they got arrested? Thank you for proving my point for me. That was too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    You congress passed a bill that bans the same type of thing. If you think it violates the Constitution take it to the supreme court and see what the justices think about protests in front of their homes.
    What bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    People who protest in front of private residences in Florida can face jail time and fines under a bill signed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis

    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Anyone who protests in front of a private residence in Florida can face jail time and fines under a bill Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Monday.

    The legislation makes it a second-degree misdemeanor to protest in a manner that is aimed at intentionally harassing or disturbing someone in their home. Violators face 60 days in jail and fines of up to $500.


    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...antis-84762843

    Wow he doesn't even pretend. He truly is a fascist. People being thrown in jail for exercising their First Amendment rights?

    I predict many people will be protesting in front of his house to spite him. They won't be enough rooms in jail.
    Wow, all this from a Jan 6 complainer.
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    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Only conclusion. Going to a Christian school causes you to be a mass murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    Wow, all this from a Jan 6 complainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Those who didn't trespass or commit any other crimes aren't in jail. The problem are those who broke the law in order to try to overturn our election. The media does indeed say how and why the violence started -- and you can watch it play out in real time in the videos. The crooks who stormed the Capitol as part of the planned Putsch put Capitol police in a position where they had to use stun grenades, pepper spray, etc., in order to try to defend the lives of our representatives. Thank goodness they succeeded.

    At this point, what really worries me is that this will be like the Bierhall Putsch. As you'll recall, the Nazis launched a 1/6-style attempt to seize the government, which failed when authorities on the scene managed to push them back. But, unfortunately, the traitors were given mere slaps on the wrist, despite the fact the Putsch, like the one on 1/6, had turned deadly. Even Hitler himself got nothing but a few months in jail, during which time he was allowed to write Mein Kampf and to continue rallying his political movement.

    What happens when you let such people off without serious consequences is that they see it as an invitation to try again, and next time they will be better prepared. A decade after the Nazis failed to seize power, they succeeded, and the rest was an unimaginable catastrophe for all humanity.

    Will we make the same mistake? It certainly seems possible. The ring leader hasn't even seen a day behind bars, this time, so we're doing even worse than the German authorities did with regard to Trump's predecessor.
    Stun grenades were being used on people walking to the capitol. You decided they were nazis and got what they deserved. That's not how the constitution works. The capitol is public property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Your link deals with assembly on private property, which is a different queston than we're discussing here. Try to focus.
    my link deals with court cases that overturned limits to private business property. nice try though. you need to focus


    Nobody is arguing otherwise.
    You tried. You pretended that the Sons of Liberty would of rejected states power to ban this - they would of understood that states could ban this

    Quote Originally Posted by liar
    These are EXACTLY the things the founders had in mind with the First Amendment.
    you are a liar - they respected their states - they feared the federal government having too much power.

    But now the first amendment definitely applies to the state and has for a very, very long time. What DeSantis is attempting here is using government power to block the exercise of First Amendment rights.
    Again - courts will allow this. We did not fight a war to prevent states from legislating accordingly

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    ya it's the new fad. more social breakdowns
    It's harassment when people are living their lives not on the job. RW or LW
    Yet it's the Reichwing melting down about it and passing laws that are most likely unconstitutional. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    its a public nuisance and disturbing the peace.
    Unless of course it's armed RW morons protesting at a govt. official's house because wearing a mask during a deadly pandemic is exactly like being sent to Auschwitz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yet it's the Reichwing melting down about it and passing laws that are most likely unconstitutional. Funny how that works, isn't it?
    seeing retards that barely understand incorporation claim what is constitutional is hilarious

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