Doomsday Predictions -- Some History for the Coward

[Mina]

You should worry about defending your own position....

As you can see, I did. That's why you had your little meltdown. It was adorable.

[Mina]

You aren't banned from my threads...

Glad to hear it. I've always felt that kind of censorship signaled a real cowardice. A person should have the courage to take on all challenges to her positions... and the courage to change positions if it turns out they can't be defended.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

get lost you cowardly troll

wald was wrong.

caring about the environment has been hijacked by nazi eugenicist power fiends.

[Into the Night]

Prima was right. Wald was wrong, I believe Prima is British and lives In Thailand. I live in Georgia, home state of the Georgia peach, Ty Cobb.

Wald was wrong ...so was Algore (sic).

We ban loons like you because we know that you will post the usual far left garbage.

You can obviously see that such bans don't work.

[Into the Night]

He wasn't talking about arms control, sweetie.

He was talking about population control and climate change.

"The author of 1968’s “The Population Bomb” was another gloom-and-doom prophet who made so many failed predictions over the years that it’s almost hard to keep count

Climatologists lay out four possible future trajectories for the environment. Alarmists seized on the worst one. It’s also the least likely.

It’s time for the global-warming crowd to realize, once and for all, that civilization isn’t ending – not in 1985 and not in 2100. And those are the cold facts.


“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

Harvard biologist George Wald made that claim in 1970.

So if Wald had been correct, just about everything would have crumbled to ruin sometime between 1985 and 2000.



Wald, however, wasn’t alone. He and others came up with some incredibly over-the-top predictions as the 1960s came to a close.

“Earth Day” founder Denis Hayes, for example, didn’t hedge his bets: “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” Or take Paul Ehrlich (please). The author of 1968’s “The Population Bomb” was another gloom-and-doom prophet who made so many failed predictions over the years that it’s almost hard to keep count.

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” he said in a 1970 interview. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next 10 years.”

Off by about 180 degrees. Food production spiked in the ensuing years. And starvation on such a massive scale never materialized, thank God.

Radical Doom and Gloom predictions like this are the way fear mongers justify themselves. Many religions depend on them for this reason as well, including the Church of Global Warming, the Church of Green, the Church of the Ozone Hole, and the Church of Covid.

[gfm7175]

Since one of our posters was too frightened of people being exposed to facts to allow open participation in a thread, I figured I'd post here:

Kudos to you for doing this!! I also do this whenever someone bans me from a particular thread that I wish to participate in. What I find is that people then shift over to the "free speech" thread instead, and the original thread dies shortly thereafter.

This stuff can be misleading out of context. Wald was a peace activist concerned about the threat of nuclear war, speaking just a few years after the Cuban missile crisis had brought us to the brink of doomsday. He was arguing, among other things, in favor of deescalating the nuclear standoff between the US and USSR. At the time, the US did, in fact, take immediate action to address that, including the SALT nuclear arms limitation treaty, signed in 1972 (the first such treaty). Would civilization have fallen by 1985 or 2000 if not for round after round of talks and treaties to deescalate the nuclear threat? That's impossible to say, at this point.

There have been countless doomsday predictions that have not happened. There have been countless Church of Global Warming "prophets" who have tried and failed at predicting the date of "climate apocalypse". This is no different than the Christian "prophets" who try to predict the date of the "end of the world".

[Hawkeye10]

NOTE: Insect and bird populations are in collapse.

Buckle Up.

[gfm7175]

Legion, Earl, Primavera....probably same person. Antagonizes the liberals and bans them. Total pussy.

"I see sock people!!!""

[Hawkeye10]

Seafood populations are in collapse too, but that seems to be mostly because of Chinese over fishing.

If you like seafood eat up now!

[ThatOwlWoman]

Prima was right. Wald was wrong, I believe Prima is British and lives In Thailand. I live in Georgia, home state of the Georgia peach, Ty Cobb.

Wald was wrong ...so was Algore (sic).

We ban loons like you because we know that you will post the usual far left garbage.

I noticed that I'm back on your thread-ban list again. It's because you started yet another alt-RW conspiracy stew thread, I posted facts from credible sources that proved you wrong, and you got butt-hurt.

Most people just ignore you because they're wise. Those of us on the left who dare to contradict your whacktoid propaganda with reality must be silenced.

Talk about chickenshit!

[The Anonymous]

get lost you cowardly troll

You get lost, you dementia patient. Shouldn't even be that difficult.

[Geeko Sportivo]

The retarded Paranoid skitzoids and DOOM and Gloom idiots of today are some of the same old farts that stocked their shelves full of Cheetos, Dr. Pepper, and Charmin' and told us we were all going to die when the ball dropped in the year 2,000!

They apparently all turned into TRUMPTARDS eventually and are back at it again!

[archives]

Got to love the diplomatic approach, "since one of our posters was too frightened of people being exposed to facts to allow open participation in a thread, I figured I'd post here, well said

And "Wald" was speaking twenty years after the world witnessed the immense power of the atomic bomb, the destruction and perceived threat, mostly from radiation, was fresh on people's mind. The whole fifties decade was defined by "living with the bomb," the era of the great black and white monster films where Godzilla and the like were awakened by radiation, kids did school drills, emergency broadcast systems, air raid centers where the people were suppose to flee when the sirens rang out. It was an era of paranoia

So when a person in the early sixties, after living thru the Cuba missile crisis, authors a warning over the possibility of uncontrolled nuclear weapons wrecking horror in the future isn't all that abnormal nor worthy of ridicule sixty years later

The first poster who seemingly banned others took the warning totally out of context

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Since one of our posters was too frightened of people being exposed to facts to allow open participation in a thread, I figured I'd post here:



This stuff can be misleading out of context. Wald was a peace activist concerned about the threat of nuclear war, speaking just a few years after the Cuban missile crisis had brought us to the brink of doomsday. He was arguing, among other things, in favor of deescalating the nuclear standoff between the US and USSR. At the time, the US did, in fact, take immediate action to address that, including the SALT nuclear arms limitation treaty, signed in 1972 (the first such treaty). Would civilization have fallen by 1985 or 2000 if not for round after round of talks and treaties to deescalate the nuclear threat? That's impossible to say, at this point.

It's pretty amazing how many here think that if the prediction is "If we don't do something then this will happen" is wrong when we do something and the predicted outcome doesn't occur.

If you told them you have to put on your brakes or we will run into that brick wall and then if the brakes are applied and we don't run into the brick wall they will claim you were wrong to tell them to apply the brakes since we didn't hit the wall.

[PostmodernProphet]

Doomsday Predictions -- Some History for the Coward

why do you think Biden is a coward.....is it because he's afraid of Putin?.....