Are you concerned about replacement?

[Doc Dutch]

The deliberate provocation is key to my definition, and what earned you the label.

You called me a staunch Democrat. I explained that I was, in fact, a registered independent and always had been. You could have responded to that by suggesting I might not be as independent as I thought, or in some other way forthrightly responded to my claim. Instead, you "conceded" that I was a fervent supporter of the Democratic Party. Framing it as a "concession" made it sound like something I had claimed and that you were admitting to, after having at first denied it. You know, though, that it was no concession, but rather simply a reiteration of what you'd already claimed, without so much as the courtesy of acknowledging the contrary assertion on my part. That was deliberate provocation. You were seeking to provoke an emotional outburst by way of that disingenuous rhetoric. That's trolling.

I don't mind, honestly. Troll away. I'm just saying that it comes across as a weird non-sequitur to go from that kind of calculated divisiveness to calling for unity. If you want to know why unity is hard to come by, these days, take a look at your own bad-faith approach to political discussion.

Being provocative is not trolling. If I state "Hillary Clinton" is a liar and a crook then supply links backing up my belief, why do you think that is trolling?

Your unflagging support for Hillary indicates you being a staunch Democrat just like the staunch Trumpers who claim to be Independents aren't really Independents.

[Doc Dutch]

Indeed. Generally speaking, cognitive skills peak pretty early. Various aspects of fluid intelligence peak between about age 20 and age 40. Later in life, the ability to think well gets rarer. There's a reason, for example, world chess champions are never in their 60s and seldom in their 50s, whereas players sometimes take the world title in their early 20's.

So, while it's one thing to forgive folly in someone whose mind has been clouded by decades of decay, it would be another to forgive someone who should be operating near peak capacity.

That said, what a person claims is either right or wrong, and that should really be the focus. A correct statement is no less correct if it comes from the mouth of some tottering old man who has been dulled by advancing years, nor is a wrong statement any better merely because the speaker is young enough to still be sharp.

That's an entirely different, and very interesting discussion.

Still, while JPP does have several doddering old men posting bullshit about how to make America white again, it'd be a mistake to assume everyone over 60 is the same way.

Same for the other end of the age spectrum. I've met, worked with and known several men and women in their 20s. While they were often very bright, they also lacked experience. It was their choice to either gain experience through living it or from wisdom.

[Mina]

you have a great imagination!

Did you realize that, by that point, she was already the longest-serving head of the DNC in decades?

[Mina]

but your still a complete liar about the clintons and globalism.

If you can identify a lie, please feel free to do so.

[Jarod]

A) The left openly brags about ending whiteness through open borders then when we notice what they're promotiing, point it out, and condemn it we are called conspiracy theorists and racists.

B) what to do about it? Simple, close the border and deport illegals.

So you are concerned about “replacement”?

[Mina]

Being provocative is not trolling.

Purporting to "concede" a point when, in fact, you're simply reiterating your starting position, is, of course, trolling. Seriously, if I'd responded to what you just written with "Ok, fine, I concede that you were trolling" that would be trolling. You're a troll. You can either own it and revel in your attempts to push people's emotional buttons, or you can try to elevate the dialogue with calls to unity. But when you try to do both at once, it just looks silly.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

If you can identify a lie, please feel free to do so.

you're lying about clintons and the dnc and bernie.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Did you realize that, by that point, she was already the longest-serving head of the DNC in decades?

and her service ended in shame as she sold out any legitimacy the dnc ever had to the clintons.

[Mina]

...it'd be a mistake to assume everyone over 60 is the same way.

Indeed. And that goes to the point I was making about the importance of focusing on the argument, not the age of the person making it.

Same for the other end of the age spectrum. I've met, worked with and known several men and women in their 20s. While they were often very bright, they also lacked experience. It was their choice to either gain experience through living it or from wisdom.

I think that as a general matter, intelligence has ordinarily proven more important than experience when it comes to finding oneself on the right side of political issues. Look back to fights of the past on issues where time has revealed one position to be clearly superior to the other -- e.g., the question of whether or not de jure racial segregation should be struck down, or whether gay couples should be allowed to get married, or women should have the right to vote, and so on. When you look at those various fights of the past, any time there was a generational divide on the issue (e.g., young freedom riders and activists pushing for desegregation versus the old guard trying to hold the line against it), it's the young people that ended up being right. Those younger people may not have had as much experience to work with, but experienced wasn't what moved society in the right direction. Fresh outlooks from bright young people did. Often, what was trying to pass as the wisdom of experience was just the inertia of minds that had lost the capacity to evolve.

[Mina]

and her service ended in shame as she sold out any legitimacy the dnc ever had to the clintons.

You didn't answer the question.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

So you are concerned about “replacement”?

you're not just ending whiteness. that's a dishonest frame.

you're ending the upward mobility of citizens of all races with rampant immigration.

[Mina]

you're lying about clintons and the dnc and bernie.

If you can identify an example, feel free to do so.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

If you can identify an example, feel free to do so.

I just did.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

You didn't answer the question.

yes i realized it.

that's a dumb point and unrelated to her reasons for resigning.

[Mina]

yes i realized it.

Well, if you ever have the courage to do so, just give me a heads up.