More bad news for Biden: More Americans are blaming him for the state of the economy

[Into the Night]

There single person who owns your account, Into the Night's and IBDaMann is codenamed Sybil. Get a fucking clue, Sybil.

Sybil doesn't own any accounts here. She exists only in your imagination. There are no socks between these accounts. That only exists in your imagination.
Your hallucinations are getting much worse.

[Into the Night]

Let's not overthink what Democracy is.

Democracy is a very simple rule- Democracy is defined in just 3 simple words- A MAJORITY RULES!

Any skating or dancing around the edges of that rule is said to be anti-democratic!

Not sure how it can be simplified any more clearly than that!

You are correct. Democracy has no constitution and no representatives. It is government by popular vote.
It most often destabilizes into an oligarchy or a dictatorship. Athens dissolved into a dictatorship.

You support oligarchy.

[Into the Night]

Demonkkkrat arguments tend to come down to, as Reagan put it, "know[ing] so much that isn't so".


You aren't taking "the data" as a whole. That's the problem here. I'll describe it for you in a minute.


Projection.


Nah. I will rather be attempting, and succeeding at, a "you are ignoring [this] [this] and [this], thus your conclusion is erroneous" argument.


Trump did not fail. His policies were creating a welcoming environment that led to job growth until Demonkkkrat governor covid tyranny policies created an unwelcoming environment that led to job destruction.


The truth is precisely the opposite of what you just said here.

So skyrocketing gas prices are a "good result"? Skyrocketing energy prices are too? What about skyrocketing food prices? Stagflation is a "good result"? Increased violence in Demonkkkrat cities is a "good result"? Increased homelessness in Demonkkkrat cities is a "good result"??

The Demonkkkrat Party sounds rather destructive to me... That's why I vote for Republicans, specifically preferring and voting in the primaries for the conservatives within the Party.


This is where you "know so much that isn't so" via ignoring other relevant data and events (aka not looking at "the whole picture").

Let's take a look at the April 2022 employment numbers (Source: BLS) as an example. In that release, it is stated that 428,000 jobs were added in April 2022. Good news, right??!! People are getting back to work!! Yay!!!!

Wait a minute... Simultaneous to that, the reported number of people employed DROPPED by 363,000, the labor participation rate DROPPED 0.2% from the prior month, and the unemployment rate remained steady. So, what's happening here?? How does one reconcile this?

--- Job jumping. There are other factors involved, yes, but job jumping is a major one (especially given how high Demflation is right now).

Government creates no jobs (except in government). For Biden to claim he created jobs is ridiculous at best.

Oh...and the stock market is beginning to crash.

[Into the Night]

Why are you so abusive towards this Sybil person?? What has your imaginary friend ever done to you?

He imagines everyone to be a sock too. He keeps calling everyone that disagrees with him a 'sock'.
Maybe this imaginary friend (enemy?) Sybil did it.

[Earl]

https://nypost.com/cover/may-19-2022/

[BartenderElite]

Most Americans aren't economists.

So, there's that.

[Earl]

Most Americans aren't economists.

So, there's that.

You certainly aren’t.

[Earl]

Despite word salads and denials, the American people know out of control inflation when they see it. The polling of Slow Joe refutes the left's "black is really white" mierda that these far left loons are posting.

False narratives don't cut it any longer.

Black is black and the Democrats will learn it in November.

[Grokmaster]

Despite word salads and denials, the American people know out of control inflation when they see it. The polling of Slow Joe refutes the left's "black is really white" mierda that these far left loons are posting.

False narratives don't cut it any longer.

Black is black and the Democrats will learn it in November.

Most Americans now think we are headed for a recession in 2022.

[Truth Detector]

Biden is going to pull the Democrat party down the drain with him.

They are doing it to themselves. Pinocchio Joe is just doing their bidding.

[Truth Detector]

So, what will Republicans do different that will give American relief from greedy corporations who are price gouging us?

Do you have any proof of all this price gouging? Of course you don't. You merely parrot what MSNBC tells you to parrot.

What makes this claim so very stupid is the fact that corporations are missing their profit targets due to .... wait for it.....HIGHER COSTS. That's why the stock market has been in a downward spiral the last weeks. Be less dumb, assuming that is even possible.

What will they do about oil that will lower gas prices immediately?

This is more laughable stupidity. So Democrats fuck everything up, and douchebags on the left demand Republicans fix it.

When Pinocchio Joe stepped into office, he reversed every program Trump promoted. Starting with the keystone pipeline. An act that was actually a massive breach of contract that the Government is going to be paying billions of taxpayer dollars for.

When you have NO energy policy other than destroying the oil business, this is what you get. Be less stupid.

[Truth Detector]

More good news- Gropemaster is obviously still a BUTTHURT LYING SON-OF-A-BITCH that can't get over the 2020 election because TRUMPTY DUMPTY was dumped by the American Majority of voters.

You spelled "Geeko Sportivo" wrong. The irony when leftists accuse others of what they actually are.

[gfm7175]

Well, Reagan thought facts were stupid things.

I bet you don't even know what a fact is.

In my case, I try very hard not to say anything that isn't so.

You need to try MUCH harder then...

Can you identify anything I said that isn't true?

Already did.

Well, that depends what his goal was. For example, if his intent was to explode the deficit,

If it wasn't already clear beforehand, this precise moment is how I know with 100% certainty that I am speaking to a complete and utter non-thinking NPC libtard (very redundant, I know). How do I know this?? From your usage of the word 'deficit' rather than the word 'debt'. Libtards like you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make use of the word 'deficit' rather than the word 'debt'.

he succeeded.

Here, you put your lack of constitutional knowledge on full display. You are now attempting to blame then-President Trump for something that Congress was and is responsible for.

If his attempt was to keep Americans dying in Afghanistan for four years with nothing to show for it, he succeeded there, too.

He's not the one who botched the Afghan pullout, nor did he put troops there to begin with. He was largely bringing our troops back home and not getting us involved in any wars (even striking peace deals in the Middle East).

Biden, on the other hand, has been war mongering this whole time. He stoked the flames between Russia and Ukraine (with regard to NATO, knowing that Russia doesn't want NATO on their doorstep) while the Uniparty members of Congress keep laundering money (now to the tune of $40+ billion) via their subsidizing of the Ukrainian government. Biden has also been sending our troops to other parts of the world as well, yet he won't send any of them to combat the invasion that is occurring at our southern border (a violation of Article IV of the Constitution). Maybe Demonkkkrats want war, civil upheaval, and general chaos to be occurring so that they can declare martial law at the opportune time? You know, what they accused Trump of supposedly wanting to do, since that's how Demonkkkrats operate...

He also succeeded in driving up the unemployment rate and the murder rate. He succeeded in inspiring a mob of criminals to break into our Capitol, loot and vandalize property there, and beat down our police. He succeeded in running up a higher COVID death toll, per capita, than any other major nation. There are a great many successes he can claim, if those indeed were his goals (you never know, when it comes to a guy who was working for Putin).

Delusions.

What makes you think that?

RQAA.

In the short term, it certainly means more consumer hardship. In the long term, though, it drives higher efficiency, which means we'll get more GDP per unit of fuel. So, long turn I guess it could be good.

"GDP per unit of fuel"? --- No, what it means is that it now costs me MORE than it did before to drive only 1/3 of the distance that I drove before. That's NOT a good thing.

We don't have that.

Yes, we do.

As a reminder, we're coming off the best year in almost four decades for GDP growth.

You clearly don't understand what the GDP is nor how it is calculated. Otherwise, you would know full well that it is currently being driven up by massive inflation rather than any sort of increase in production.

For example:

$5.00/unit x 500 units = $2,500
$10.00/unit x 300 units = $3,000

Mina now says: "WOW!!!!! A 20% INCREASE IN GDP!!!! Biden has this economy running on all cylinders!!!

Someone who isn't a complete moron says: "Fuck Biden and Fuck Demonkkkrats. Now the very same unit costs me twice as much as it did before, and now much less of them are being produced due to decreased demand for them due to how fucking expensive the damn things are now. The economy is contracting rather than booming, and we are now in an economic depression. Thanks Demonkkkrats!!! Way to take a booming economy under Trump's Presidency and turn it into a complete shitshow...

No, the Trump murder wave of 2020 was decidedly not a good result. Hopefully we're going to be able to reverse that horrifying trend he left us with before too long.

Delusions. Trump didn't murder anyone.

You refer, of course, to the CPS survey ... ... ...

You have no idea what I was referring to, even though I already told you.

[Hawkeye10]

Is Biden’s ‘Success’ Our Mess?
May 19, 2022
Victor Davis Hanson
American Greatness

If an administration deliberately wished to cause havoc on the border, to ensure fuel was nearly unaffordable, to create a crime wave, to spark 1970s hyperinflation, and to rekindle racial tensions, what would it have done differently than what Joe Biden has done?

So is Biden malicious, incompetent, or a wannabe left-wing ideologue?

When pressed about inflation and fuel price hikes, Biden either blames someone or something else, gets mad at the questioner, or claims Donald Trump did it.

His administration apparently believes things are going well and according to plan.
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The public believes the Biden Administration has failed America, with disastrous results due either to its incompetence, belligerence, or left-wing zealotry.

But Biden and his delusional team seem delighted with what they have wrought.

In sum, what Americans see as an abject catastrophe, they cheer on as a stunning and planned success.

https://victorhanson.com/is-bidens-success-our-mess/

[Mina]

I bet you don't even know what a fact is.

I'm someone who has never called them stupid things, unlike Reagan.

You need to try MUCH harder then...

What makes you think that?

Already did.

I reread and can't see any statement I made that you showed not to be factual. What, specifically, were you thinking of?

[superior debaters] like you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make use of the word 'deficit' rather than the word 'debt'.

They refer to two different things. I use both terms, depending on which of the two I'm referring to. But, yes, there is a strong preference among right-wing zealots to speak only of debt, since debt has increased during every modern presidency, which makes it less useful from distinguishing between fiscally competent presidents (who lower the deficit and thus slow the rate of debt growth) and fiscally incompetent ones (who raise deficits and speed the accumulation of debt).

You are now attempting to blame then-President Trump for something that Congress was and is responsible for.

As you know, if you are at all familiar with the Constitution, there is very little Congress can do on its own, at least without veto-proof super majorities. For that reason, presidential eras tend to take on more of the tone of the presidency of the era than the Congress. As an example, compare 1981-1988 to 1993-2000. The former era had a Republican president and mostly a Democratic Congress. The latter had the opposite. If Congress were the primary power, de facto, we would expect that earlier era to be one with rising taxes on the wealthy, a bunch of new labor protections, new gun control, and a shrinking of the share of the budget spent on the military. And if Congress were the primary power, de facto, we would expect the later era to be one with big tax cuts, a roll-back in labor protections, a roll-back in gun control, and an explosion of military spending. Is that the case for each?

As you can see, the actual policy changes of each era more frequently reflected the goals of the president than the Congress. The combination of the bully pulpit, the veto, and control of the executive agencies makes the presidency a position that can very much dictate the tone of an era.

He's not the one who botched the Afghan pullout

Yes, he definitely was. He kept announcing it and never doing it, which sapped the morale of our side, while emboldening the other, all as we bled a hundred billion bucks into that country per year, with nothing to show for it. You can't botch it much worse than that. By comparison, Biden succeeded in just a few months to do what Trump failed to do for four years: he got us the hell out.

He stoked the flames between Russia and Ukraine (with regard to NATO, knowing that Russia doesn't want NATO on their doorstep)....

Russia already has NATO on their doorstep. The US and Russia are just 55 miles away from each other at one point. What is it that you think "stoked the flames" exactly?

Delusions.

Your inability to think of a substantive response is noted.

RQAA.

Meaning?

"GDP per unit of fuel"?

Yes. You can understand that concept simply enough by looking at historical fuel efficiency. The amount of economic activity you could fuel with an gallon of gas was a whole lot lower back when gas got you 10 miles to the gallon than when it gets you 30. Price spikes in fuel incentivize people to come up with more fuel-efficient ways to do things, and since fossil fuels are effectively a finite resource, that means we ultimately get more economic mileage out of the available fuel.

As another example, remember that natural gas was often just flared off as a waste product when trying to get at oil reserves, in the past. Higher prices, though, made people realize that gas had value, and now it's used more efficiently. If we hadn't had higher prices earlier, we'd have burned off more of that resource unproductively.

Yes, we do.

What makes you think that.

You clearly don't understand what the GDP is nor how it is calculated.

That'll come as a bit of a surprise to my Ivy League economics professor who gave me a great score on the test that dealt with exactly that issue.

Otherwise, you would know full well that it is currently being driven up by massive inflation rather than any sort of increase in production.

I take it you've never had an economics class in your life. When people talk about GDP growth, they're nearly talking about REAL GDP growth. When people say 2021 has the strongest GDP growth in nearly 40 years, they mean the strongest REAL GDP growth.... in other words, the strongest after accounting for inflation.

You can see that here:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDPC1#0

That's real GDP, which was up about 5.53% in 2021, which is the most since 1984.

Now see here:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP#0

That's nominal GDP (GDP before discounting for inflation). It was up about 11.76% in 2021, which is the most since 1978.

Do you see your error now? That's why people say last year's economic growth was the best in almost 40 years, not the best OVER 40 years.

Someone who isn't a complete moron says: "Fuck Biden and Fuck Demonkkkrats.

Actually, take a good look through this forum. I think you'll find that each an every person who uses the term "Demonkkkrats" is a complete moron. Seriously, can you think of even one of the posters here who uses that slur who isn't a gibbering imbecile?

Delusions. Trump didn't murder anyone.

Possibly not, but he did preside over the biggest single-year increase in murder rates on record. He loves to slap his name on stuff so I've accommodated that by slapping his name on the murder-rate surge he helped to shepherd into the world.

You have no idea what I was referring to, even though I already told you.

I know exactly what you're referring to. The figure you quoted comes from the Current Population Survey, either directly or indirectly (I assume you didn't go to the Census to get it yourself, but rather are just parroting something from a wingnut website, but ultimately it came from the CPS).