Authoritarianism is surging. Can liberal democracy fight back?

[Cypress]

oh well

I accept your tacit confession that you were wrong in opposing our assistance to democratic Ukraine.

[BidenPresident]

I accept your tacit confession that you were wrong in opposing our assistance to democratic Ukraine.

you're an idiot

[NiftyNiblick]

The facts are cold! The Republicans are out-numbered.

It's been that way for several presidential elections now.

The Republicans know this because they cannot even win the popular vote anymore.

So, even though they do everything they can at the STATE LEVEL to suppress democratic votes, they realize they have to cheat to win elections now.

DEMOCRACY is seen as a conflict of interest. They hate democracy now. Democracy don't work for Republicans anymore!

The way our brokedick founders wrote the constitution, Republicans can be outnumbered and still control the government with total constitutional compliance.
Never have more stupid people been more highly praised than our feckless founders.
They may have been good at dancing to harpsichords and fiddles, but they understood jack shit about law. Or people.
They must have inhaled too much wig powder.

[Grokmaster]

WHO CAME UP WITH MANDATES, SHUT DOWNS, PUSHING LIES LIKE "RUSSIA COLLUSUION" and "RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION" ,PLUS THE SHINY, NEW "MINISTRY of TRUTH"?

[Geeko Sportivo]

The way our brokedick founders wrote the constitution, Republicans can be outnumbered and still control the government with total constitutional compliance.
Never have more stupid people been more highly praised than our feckless founders.
They may have been good at dancing to harpsichords and fiddles, but they understood jack shit about law. Or people.
They must have inhaled too much wig powder.

How gay were those powdered wigs? The forefathers may have all been gay, so at least one might suggest they were LGBTQ Friendly types.

But our forefathers were Plutocrats, Elitists, Sexists, Misogynists, Clerics, and Racists before anything else, as only rich land holders were allowed to take part in the Democratic process.

Most everyone else were either indentured slaves, WOMEN, Children, or Black Slaves that had no freedom rights or representation.

https://www.advocate.com/arts-entert...rs-and-mothers

https://www.salon.com/2011/04/26/flynt_5/

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

The way our brokedick founders wrote the constitution, Republicans can be outnumbered and still control the government with total constitutional compliance.
Never have more stupid people been more highly praised than our feckless founders.
They may have been good at dancing to harpsichords and fiddles, but they understood jack shit about law. Or people.
They must have inhaled too much wig powder.

you basically openly hate america and freedom.

[Minister of Truth]

“We are now in the midst of the most sustained global assault on liberal democratic values since the 1930s,” Gideon Rachman writes in “The Age of the Strongman,” his survey of illiberal political leaders in countries such as Brazil, China, Hungary, Russia, Turkey and, yes, the United States. It is not exactly a novel account — the death-of-democracy bookshelf is quite crowded — and it covers the greatest hits of aspiring autocrats: the cults of personality, the us-vs.-them populism, the disdain for law, the manipulation of racial and xenophobic resentments.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...uyama-rachman/

Let's create a Ministry of Truth. That should right the ship!

[NiftyNiblick]

you basically openly hate america and freedom.

Our constitution wouldn't earn a C- in any good law school freshman class today.
Knowledge and understanding matter.
The framers didn't have either.
Good intentions buy you jack shit if you don't know what you're doing, and even their intentions were suspect.

You think forming an efficient form of government doesn't matter, as long as we have the Bill of Rights.
That's a genuinely psychotic opinion.

[Hawkeye10]

No.

[NiftyNiblick]

An efficient democratic republic is impossible with the level of polarity we have in America.
Dystopia or partition are the only options with what we have now.

The viscerally felt hatred between Middle American rubes and Coastal American sophisticates is palpable.
Partition is the only answer for it.

[BidenPresident]

Dystopia or partition are the only options with what we have now.

Bizarre. You never give any practical solution.

[NiftyNiblick]

Bizarre. You never give any practical solution.

I'll tell you the REAL definition of insanity.

It's believing that there are moderate solutions to immoderate problems.
Timid people can't face the reality of just how fucked up we are right now.
We're on the precipice of another Dark Ages period, simply because of the number of intellectually deficient people we have.
The Democrats losing control is the same as the Romans losing control of themselves and Europe both. Centuries of human progress will once again be lost as it was back then.

It's inevitable, and partition is the ONLY possible way to avoid it.

[anonymoose]

Retaining democracy anywhere will be a huge problem in the next few decades. It is falling apart all across the globe. Almost since its founding, the US has been a model for democracy and peaceful transfer of power, but conservative America has slowly eroded that base...and with the rise of Trump and his morons, we are no longer anywhere near the model the world needs.

If we get through this shit, it will probably be more because of luck than anything planned and executed. We have people on the same side of the "democracy question" right here in this thread tearing into each other.

We are a generation who has pissed on the Republic entrusted to us for a short time.

Anyway, I wish the US the best of luck. It will need it.

Both the red and blue teams are guilty of authoritarianism.
True, Trump not accepting the results of an election was anti- democratic but so was obamas militarization of the EPA and using agencies to make “rules” to circumvent congress into making laws.
Now we have the “Ministry of Disinformation “ being used to suppress negative information about the authoritarian Left and for propaganda purposes.
. How telling.

[anonymoose]

Democracy will fail if it does not suppress fascism.

Also if it doesn’t suppress anarchy.

[anonymoose]

oh well

Well I completely agree with cypress .
You are for authoritarian regimes.