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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You just said it all right there, "it's the MAGA crowd; Paul, Biggs, Carlson, Ingram, and Greenwald," most who also still think the election was crooked and January 6th was just another day in DC. Called demagoguery, simple answers to difficult questions, if not for the buck, for personal political gain
    lol you just used demagoguery to decry demagoguery FFS dont insert 1/6 into everything under the sun
    I dont want to be at war with Russia,and especially dont want to pay 8x more then the EU for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    lol you just used demagoguery to decry demagoguery FFS dont insert 1/6 into everything under the sun
    I dont want to be at war with Russia,and especially dont want to pay 8x more then the EU for it
    Not true, all of the individuals you mentioned still refuse to recognize the Big Lie as the Big Lie, and all of them have downplayed the events of January 6th, not demagoguery, fact

    And unless you know something I don't, we aren't at war with Russia, and if we were, it would cost a hell'va lot more than fifty million dollars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    ?????
    Did someone march out of lockstep, comrade?


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not true, all of the individuals you mentioned still refuse to recognize the Big Lie as the Big Lie, and all of them have downplayed the events of January 6th, not demagoguery, fact

    And unless you know something I don't, we aren't at war with Russia, and if we were, it would cost a hell'va lot more than fifty million dollars
    Fuck off, shitbird. None of that makes anybody's world go 'round. Democrats cheating the election and installing a Weekend at Bernie's motherfucker is hurting most Americans right fucking

    now, you piece of dogshit. Go take a long walk off a short pier into tiger shark infested water, ok?

    You are a useless piece of shit.

    Oh damn, one of the fellers today said he was bitching about 58 cents a gallon gas when he first moved here. (from a different American state)

    Gas was fine for 80 years until Carter, and then Bush with the diesel fuckery, wtf was that about?

    That was definitely an intentional Bah Fongula to Americans.

    Diesel always used to be a little more than half the price of gas for around a century. It's a byproduct of refining gas.

    True story, look it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not true, all of the individuals you mentioned still refuse to recognize the Big Lie as the Big Lie, and all of them have downplayed the events of January 6th, not demagoguery, fact

    And unless you know something I don't, we aren't at war with Russia, and if we were, it would cost a hell'va lot more than fifty million dollars
    $54 billion (not million) can easily run a proxy war. do you have any idea of the quantity
    of expensive high tech weapons we've given ( by Lend Lease) to Ukraine? obviously not

    The $40 billion Rand Paul has stalled passage will probably get thru the Senate this week
    I bet yours and mine bottom dollar they'll be back for more soon enough - they are committed to "victory"
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...a-war-00027737
    “Ukraine clearly believes that it can win, and so does everyone here,” Austin said at the meeting of defense ministers, adding: “Ukraine needs our help to win today. And they will still need our help when the war is over.” (Austin)
    54 billion is more then it costs for a year of funding our Marine Corps
    Yes indeed we are warring against Russia.

    Not our "boots"
    but training , real time intelligence, logistical support and baskets full of our most advanced weaponry

    If you think it's worth it to war against Russia we can have that discussion,
    but dont delude yourself otherwise we aren't in a hot war against Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    $54 billion (not million) can easily run a proxy war. do you have any idea of the quantity
    of expensive high tech weapons we've given ( by Lend Lease) to Ukraine? obviously not

    The $40 billion Rand Paul has stalled passage will probably get thru the Senate this week
    I bet yours and mine bottom dollar they'll be back for more soon enough - they are committed to "victory"

    54 billion is more then it costs for a year of funding our Marine Corps
    Yes indeed we are warring against Russia.

    Not our "boots"
    but training , real time intelligence, logistical support and baskets full of our most advanced weaponry

    If you think it's worth it to war against Russia we can have that discussion,
    but dont delude yourself otherwise we aren't in a hot war against Russia
    starting to see a few FB posts objecting to the Money Pit of Ukraine.
    Typically it's 'so we protect Uk borders but not our own"

    Protecting Uk "border" is just lines on a map anyways.
    historically you cant separate Uk east of the Dnieper from Russia
    You can just draw lines on a map
    that's what we are warring about?? puuuleese

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    EU to provide 500 million new euro military aid to Ukraine
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ll-2022-05-13/
    <then 1/8th the amount of what Congress is sending this round

    Total spent by EU is € 2billion / US total is $54 billion
    Military spending is mostly up to member states, not the EU in general.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Gas was fine for 80 years until Carter
    The 1973 Oil Crisis can hardly be blamed on Carter, who came to office 4 years later.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
    Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
    Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The 1973 Oil Crisis can hardly be blamed on Carter, who came to office 4 years later.
    Nixon price controls..the same price controls Carter expounded upon in addition to stopping domestic drilling and increased relying on OPEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    U.S. Sam is a Sucker

    EU to provide 500 million new euro military aid to Ukraine
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ll-2022-05-13/
    <then 1/8th the amount of what Congress is sending this round

    Total spent by EU is € 2billion / US total is $54 billion
    First, all Americans know it's not US Sam; it's the initials from US: Uncle Sam. It's obvious why Russian agents wouldn't be familiar with US culture.

    Second, it's a matter of percentages. The US is reluctant to take immigrants due to internal politics so the Euros are shouldering that burden and doing it very well. The US is simply doing what we do best: throw money at it and not do anything else.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    EU to provide 500 million new euro military aid to Ukraine
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ll-2022-05-13/
    <then 1/8th the amount of what Congress is sending this round

    Total spent by EU is € 2billion / US total is $54 billion
    I think the EU's primary role has been housing and supporting Ukrainian refugees. Poland, alone, has taken in well over 3 million Ukrainian refugees, and the rest of the EU has also taken in large numbers (e.g., 700,000 in Germany). The last I heard, the US was saying we'd be open to housing up to 100,000 Ukrainian refugees, but I don't believe we've taken many yet (just 15,000 as of late April). So, this is a situation where the US is doing the lion's share of supporting the war effort, while the EU is doing the lion's share of addressing the humanitarian crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    I think the EU's primary role has been housing and supporting Ukrainian refugees. Poland, alone, has taken in well over 3 million Ukrainian refugees, and the rest of the EU has also taken in large numbers (e.g., 700,000 in Germany). The last I heard, the US was saying we'd be open to housing up to 100,000 Ukrainian refugees, but I don't believe we've taken many yet (just 15,000 as of late April). So, this is a situation where the US is doing the lion's share of supporting the war effort, while the EU is doing the lion's share of addressing the humanitarian crisis.
    not our war, but we cant help ourselves.. The goal is regime change (as always) in Russia

    20,000 Ukrainians jumped U.S. border in April
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-border-april/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    First, all Americans know it's not US Sam; it's the initials from US: Uncle Sam. It's obvious why Russian agents wouldn't be familiar with US culture.

    Second, it's a matter of percentages. The US is reluctant to take immigrants due to internal politics so the Euros are shouldering that burden and doing it very well. The US is simply doing what we do best: throw money at it and not do anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Military spending is mostly up to member states, not the EU in general.
    pointless response. it's an aggregate total - no one claims EU as a single entity passed the hat around

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    Biden makes 'no apologies' for saying Putin 'cannot remain in power'
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bide...ry?id=83722293
    ^for those still clueless

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