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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    there is no "Putin playbook"
    There is Ukraine. Putin thought he could saw it off, but didnt take Javelins and drones into consideration
    I saw the Battlefield of Libya (most high tech war before this one) and drone warfare turned the tide of Hiftars advance on Tripoli

    Now Putin is "aware" as well as he watches his armor turn to mush

    After this spanking he isn't going to try to blink at NATO, muchless invade
    You have to see Ukraine is much different to Russia then the "old empire"
    Hince the reason Finland and Sweden want in NATO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Which do you suppose would degrade Russia more. Russia is our adversary.
    China is an existential threat economically, strategically and has stated it intends to replace Pax American with such as "One Belt One Road"
    Russia doesnt even have a navy worth mentioning . it's no threat to the USA except nukes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Of course they are, look at a map of the Baltic and Kaliningrad as just one example. Where do think their wheezy old aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov came from?
    going to war with Sweden or Finland gets Russia nothing. what would it accomplish for Russia?

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    Trump criticizes spending for Ukraine
    https://thehill.com/news/administrat...g-for-ukraine/

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    EU to provide 500 million new euro military aid to Ukraine
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ll-2022-05-13/
    <then 1/8th the amount of what Congress is sending this round

    Total spent by EU is € 2billion / US total is $54 billion
    As was explained to you before, that $54 billion wasn’t given to the Ukrainians via a blank check, it is in US military supplies produced by US companies, all foreign aid, especially military aid, serves more than one purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Trump criticizes spending for Ukraine
    https://thehill.com/news/administrat...g-for-ukraine/
    What doesn’t Trump criticize, especially if he can demagogue it for his own personal ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    As was explained to you before, that $54 billion wasn’t given to the Ukrainians via a blank check, it is in US military supplies produced by US companies, all foreign aid, especially military aid, serves more than one purpose
    dont talk down to me when you dont know whats in the aid. it's not all military aid fool.
    we are becoming Ukraine's Sugar Daddy
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    $150 million for something called the Global Agriculture and Food Security Program

    there's another huge chunk of cash to "combat human trafficking." Now, not combat human trafficking in Texas, where it is now ubiquitous thanks to the open border with Mexico, but to combat human trafficking in Ukraine

    There's still more money to make sure Ukrainians have emergency shelter

    There's $900 million to make sure Ukrainians have access to "entitlement programs" our entitlement programs. They'll need them when they arrive here, as many will.

    $72 million for something the bill describes as "research, development, test, and evaluation in Ukraine."
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...protecting-you

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    What doesn’t Trump criticize, especially if he can demagogue it for his own personal ends
    It's not just trump. It's the MAGA crowd
    Rand Paul, Biggs afew other Congresspersons,as well as celebrities like Carlson and Ingram, Greenwald

    There were 57 Republican Congress critters that voted against the aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    China is an existential threat economically, strategically and has stated it intends to replace Pax American with such as "One Belt One Road"
    Russia doesnt even have a navy worth mentioning . it's no threat to the USA except nukes
    Not the answer to my question , Nonresponsive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Not the answer to my question , Nonresponsive.
    i didnt follow the exact line of your question

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    It's not just trump. It's the MAGA crowd
    Rand Paul, Biggs afew other Congresspersons,as well as celebrities like Carlson and Ingram, Greenwald
    Does that give you a clue what Trump would be doing about it if he really had won in 2020?

    NOTHING.

    Putin would have a free hand. And every half-assed dictator would think: if Putin can get away with it, so can I.

    I get the impression that's what you want.

    America first, eh? If the original America Firsters had had their way, half the world would be under Nazism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Does that give you a clue what Trump would be doing about it if he really had won in 2020?
    NOTHING.

    Putin would have a free hand. And every half-assed dictator would think: if Putin can get away with it, so can I.

    I get the impression that's what you want.

    America first, eh? If the original America Firsters had had their way, half the world would be under Nazism.
    extrapolated nonsense. At least you didnt call Putin a Communist like that other moron ALTHEA
    everybody is a "nazi"

    if Putin can get away with it, so can I.
    I get the impression that's what you want.
    more projection

    I dont want to be at war with Russia..i cant be any clearer then that

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    At least you didnt call Putin a Communist like that other moron ALTHEA
    everybody is a "nazi"
    I didn't call Putin a communist or a nazi. He's a traditional Russian imperialist with a thriving sideline in kleptocracy.

    I dont want to be at war with Russia
    Nobody does - that's why the Biden administration refused to impose a no-fly zone in Ukraine, and they were right.

    Now, if Trump were president, what would he be doing different? Indeed, what would he be doing apart from NOTHING? And is that what you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    It's not just trump. It's the MAGA crowd
    Rand Paul, Biggs afew other Congresspersons,as well as celebrities like Carlson and Ingram, Greenwald

    There were 57 Republican Congress critters that voted against the aid
    You just said it all right there, "it's the MAGA crowd; Paul, Biggs, Carlson, Ingram, and Greenwald," most who also still think the election was crooked and January 6th was just another day in DC. Called demagoguery, simple answers to difficult questions, if not for the buck, for personal political gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You just said it all right there, "it's the MAGA crowd; Paul, Biggs, Carlson, Ingram, and Greenwald," most who also still think the election was crooked and January 6th was just another day in DC. Called demagoguery, simple answers to difficult questions, if not for the buck, for personal political gain
    lol you just used demagoguery to decry demagoguery.. FFS dont insert 1/6 into everything under the sun
    I dont want to be at war with Russia,and especially dont want to pay 8x more then the EU for it

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