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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Walt seems to understand permafrost better than yourself, man who lies about Native American woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Walt seems to understand permafrost better than yourself, man who lies about Native American woman.
    Walt thinks the tundra is permanently frozen.
    And is a desert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Lake Mead, the reservoir formed by the Hoover Dam, has been in the news lately, thanks to multiple bodies being found there, as dropping water levels reveal parts of the lake that have been underwater since it was originally filled after the dam was built. The sheer magnitude of the decline is amazing. We're used to seeing lakes dry up where the lake was fairly shallow at the best of times. But Lake Mead is now about 162 feet below the level it was at as recently as 2000. The West is drying out, and while we might get some intermittent relief, climatologists predict that on average it'll just get worse and worse, thanks to our failure to curb greenhouse gases.
    WRONG. The lake is being pulled down because of a massive increase in demand for water in desert and temperate states that are developing housing faster than they can keep up with utilities.

    There has also been a series of temporary droughts that compound the problem. It isn't about climate change. It's about weather patterns and demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Major fire in New Mexico. Second largest in NM history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    https://serc.carleton.edu/earth_anal..._5_part_1.html

    as you an see, nothing new about lake levels dropping. has far more to do with excessive demand and snowfall / drought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    If America can produce oil pipelines- WHY CAN'T THEY PRODUCE WATER PIPELINES!

    The Great Lakes are full of FRESH WATER!

    Just a thought!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Wow. That's bad. Mead has been a fascinating case study for years. They treat sewage at one end, and drink the water at the other.

    Between runoff from fertilized lawns, and the birth control hormones in the sewage treatment plants, the lake is creating freaks of nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    there were areas of AK that never thaw completely in the past,
    And now . It's obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No doubt climate change is part of the problem but the major problem is twofold, IMO:

    1. Population explosion. Not just California either.*

    2. California tree hugger laws that prevent building more water reservoirs to accommodate the increases in population. The water has to come from somewhere and Lake Mead is “it”.


    * https://www.ppic.org/publication/cal...as-population/
    The problem, though, is precipitation. You can do more to collect and distribute it, but it's largely a zero-sum game. Whatever water you're moving to areas of great need are waters that are no longer available where they were. With so much of the West and Southwest drying out thanks to climate change, the engineering and logistical problems will just get worse and worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    it could but then again as the chart shows, sometimes it just happens (volcanoes etc).
    I accept the evidence from NASA.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
    In Brief:
    Human activities (primarily the burning of fossil fuels) have fundamentally increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in Earth’s atmosphere, warming the planet. Natural drivers, without human intervention, would push our planet toward a cooling period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    The problem, though, is precipitation. You can do more to collect and distribute it, but it's largely a zero-sum game. Whatever water you're moving to areas of great need are waters that are no longer available where they were. With so much of the West and Southwest drying out thanks to climate change, the engineering and logistical problems will just get worse and worse.
    Climate change is a problem and the Californians seem to be doing little to cope with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Lake Mead, the reservoir formed by the Hoover Dam, has been in the news lately, thanks to multiple bodies being found there, as dropping water levels reveal parts of the lake that have been underwater since it was originally filled after the dam was built. The sheer magnitude of the decline is amazing. We're used to seeing lakes dry up where the lake was fairly shallow at the best of times. But Lake Mead is now about 162 feet below the level it was at as recently as 2000. The West is drying out, and while we might get some intermittent relief, climatologists predict that on average it'll just get worse and worse, thanks to our failure to curb greenhouse gases.
    Speculation. There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas' except as a religious artifact. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You can't create energy out of nothing.

    Demand on the water of the Colorado River is higher than ever. So many people are using this water now it is overtapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Major fire in New Mexico. Second largest in NM history.
    Because of the extra brush from winter and spring growth, due to wet conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    If America can produce oil pipelines- WHY CAN'T THEY PRODUCE WATER PIPELINES!

    The Great Lakes are full of FRESH WATER!

    Just a thought!
    Oil pipelines got cancelled by Biden, dude.

    You don't seem to understand the resistance to flow that pipes create.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    We use a lot more water than gas, thats why we have to have rivers to move it from here to there.

    But China has been spending a shitload of money trying to do this with a fake river that they use pumps to send heavily polluted water in the south to the north.
    Kinda shooting themselves in the foot because they water is not being made clean anywhere along the way. Desalination is what Cali needs to be looking into.


    https://www.economist.com/china/2018...ersion-project

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