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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    So what?
    So it's an unintended consequence that can kill off estuaries and other aquatic wildlife and flora. AKA: It's not feasible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    So it's an unintended consequence that can kill off estuaries and other aquatic wildlife and flora. AKA: It's not feasible.
    I gotta say...you sound a lot like those people saying mankind is destroying the atmosphere. Whatever salt does accrue won't affect anything more than the local area. If it matters at all.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    I gotta say...you sound a lot like those people saying mankind is destroying the atmosphere. Whatever salt does accrue won't affect anything more than the local area. If it matters at all.
    It mattered a lot more than you think it would when they tried it. To the point where it's not a viable option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    It mattered a lot more than you think it would when they tried it.
    Awesome, do you have science or "the science"?

    Tell me how those plants poisoned the sea around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Awesome, do you have science or "the science"?

    Tell me how those plants poisoned the sea around them.
    It's 2 AM, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    It's 2 AM, no.
    It could be 2 PM you still wouldn't have the receipts Einstein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    you can have what we flush down our toilets.......
    Isn't Hudson Bay saltwater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Lake Mead, the reservoir formed by the Hoover Dam, has been in the news lately, thanks to multiple bodies being found there, as dropping water levels reveal parts of the lake that have been underwater since it was originally filled after the dam was built. The sheer magnitude of the decline is amazing. We're used to seeing lakes dry up where the lake was fairly shallow at the best of times. But Lake Mead is now about 162 feet below the level it was at as recently as 2000. The West is drying out, and while we might get some intermittent relief, climatologists predict that on average it'll just get worse and worse, thanks to our failure to curb greenhouse gases.
    I’ve witnessed the change, it’s so very frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    OK! We'll have to go for the Hudson Bay then!
    That's salt water. Don't you have some of that out there? I believe they call it "the Pacific." lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Wow. That's bad. Mead has been a fascinating case study for years. They treat sewage at one end, and drink the water at the other.

    Between runoff from fertilized lawns, and the birth control hormones in the sewage treatment plants, the lake is creating freaks of nature.
    Good article, and terrifying as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mina View Post
    Lake Mead, the reservoir formed by the Hoover Dam, has been in the news lately, thanks to multiple bodies being found there, as dropping water levels reveal parts of the lake that have been underwater since it was originally filled after the dam was built. The sheer magnitude of the decline is amazing. We're used to seeing lakes dry up where the lake was fairly shallow at the best of times. But Lake Mead is now about 162 feet below the level it was at as recently as 2000. The West is drying out, and while we might get some intermittent relief, climatologists predict that on average it'll just get worse and worse, thanks to our failure to curb greenhouse gases.
    No doubt climate change is part of the problem but the major problem is twofold, IMO:

    1. Population explosion. Not just California either.*

    2. California tree hugger laws that prevent building more water reservoirs to accommodate the increases in population. The water has to come from somewhere and Lake Mead is “it”.


    * https://www.ppic.org/publication/cal...as-population/
    One in eight US residents lives in California.
    With over 39 million people (according to July 2021 estimates), California is the nation’s most populous state—its population is much larger than that of second-place Texas (29 million) and third-place Florida (22 million).
    California’s population is projected to reach 45 million people by 2050.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    https://serc.carleton.edu/earth_anal..._5_part_1.html

    as you an see, nothing new about lake levels dropping. has far more to do with excessive demand and snowfall / drought.


    Agreed that population increases in the West and the drought probably have a lot more to do with it…but the drought could be a consequence of climate change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    It could be 2 PM you still wouldn't have the receipts Einstein.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Plenty of water in Alaska. And I’d never consider living where there’s water restrictions.
    Most of Alaska is a desert. It is a weird type of desert where there is lots of frozen water on the ground. Tundra often has very little rainfall, but what little water is put into the environment gets frozen and stuck there.

    Global warming is going to change all that in ways we cannot conceive of yet. Alaska is one of those danger zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Most of Alaska is a desert. It is a weird type of desert where there is lots of frozen water on the ground. Tundra often has very little rainfall, but what little water is put into the environment gets frozen and stuck there.

    Global warming is going to change all that in ways we cannot conceive of yet. Alaska is one of those danger zones.
    Not only do we have no water restrictions but we pay one fee and use as much water as we want.
    The tundra is most definitely not frozen in the summer. I work part time In Bethel and see the tundra flying in. Not only do the Kuskikwim and Yukon rivers flow through but there’s countless unnamed lakes that cover the Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta which is the size of Texas. Water is unlimited.
    You know squat about Alaska.

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