Stand Your Ground Dog Poop

[Doc Dutch]

It sounds like in this case that the shooter's atty. is thinking about invoking the SYG defense for his client's bizarre attack. In a normal state that wouldn't fly, but it's FL so who knows. The jury might believe this scenario:

Levine (sees man on golf course with dog, grabs his gun and hops in his golf cart): Hey you, get your dog off the golf course!
Merritt: Fuck you.
Levine (see story for the rest of the events)

No doubt in Florida saying "fuck you" puts your life in danger so you'd better shoot now.

The lawyer’s job is to defend their client. Personally, I think Levine is nuts and will lose in court.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/fl...-deputies-say/
Levine was arrested on attempted first-degree murder with a firearm, aggravated battery and firing a weapon in a public property charges.

[Doc Dutch]

STFU, you fucking goober. You are mentally unfit to make lunch, even. Let alone possess firearms.

Lemme guess, Matt: an African-American woman judge took away your guns after your last violent act upon your neighbors.

Am I close? If so it would explain a lot of your hatred of women, African-Americans and the Constitution plus your support for overthrowing the US government.

[Walt]

It sounds like in this case that the shooter's atty. is thinking about invoking the SYG defense for his client's bizarre attack. In a normal state that wouldn't fly, but it's FL so who knows. The jury might believe this scenario:

Levine (sees man on golf course with dog, grabs his gun and hops in his golf cart): Hey you, get your dog off the golf course!
Merritt: Fuck you.
Levine (see story for the rest of the events)

No doubt in Florida saying "fuck you" puts your life in danger so you'd better shoot now.

That is the fear.

[Walt]

Damn, he really means it when he says "Get off my lawn!"

Chasing down an unarmed old man on foot with a motorized vehicle, and then claiming self defense... Welcome to Florida.

[Walt]

Do you agree that’s irrational? Why do you think some states have reacted with laws that allow that to happen, Walt?

A Duty To Retreat means that your first priority is to try to save as many lives as possible. If it is safer just to retreat, then just retreat. It certainly is safer for the other person. The other person might not be attacking.

Let's use the example of the girl who comes home early from a slumber party. She enters the house in the middle of the night, when her father does not think she will be in the house. He hears someone moving around the house. He has two choices, retreat or shoot. With 20/20 hindsight, shooting is not the right choice.

There is evidence that mistaken self defense out numbers actual self defense. This just rises the death toll.

[Earl]

Stand Your Ground allows someone to initiate an argument, and then say that the argument makes them feel unsafe. A Duty To Retreat reduces violence.

We are seeing more and more Stand Your Ground cases where the victim is trying to run away, and is shot in the back. A crazy person comes up to you, threatens you with a gun, you try to run away, and get shot in the back, that was not self defense anywhere other than a few red states.

We are also seeing more and more drunk people entering the wrong home, and shooting the actual residents of that house by "mistake". If you try to enter what you believe is your home, and find someone you do not know eating ice cream on a couch you do not recognize, the best solution is to retreat, call the police, and think through what is going wrong with this picture. Instead, we are seeing people start shooting.

"Stand Your Ground allows someone to initiate an argument, and then say that the argument makes them feel unsafe."

Well, no, Walter, it does not.

[Earl]

you lying sack of Salty shit
SYG has nothing to do with this
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judge who deemed Levine a threat to himself and others issued a risk-protection order this week, prohibiting him from possessing firearms and ammunition for a year.

Shooter's lawyer says gunfire was lawful

Levine, who has been charged with attempted murder,

Indeed.

Walter always lies.

[Matt Dillon]

Lemme guess, Matt: an African-American woman judge took away your guns after your last violent act upon your neighbors.

Am I close? If so it would explain a lot of your hatred of women, African-Americans and the Constitution plus your support for overthrowing the US government.

Wtf is this "African-American" bullshit? Lemme tell you summin': Once somebody's family's been here for 200 years or more, there ain't no "Africa" about it, motherfucker!

There's black people, Black Americans, but there ain't too many "African Americans" 'round heanh. but the city is around 27% black (Americans). I do know some African Americans, and they're white.

They speak Dutch. That entire post of yours couldn't be more wrong.

C'mon down heanh and we'll introduce ya to Wally the gator. Or maybe Sally the sow.

She could clean a big piece of shit like you up in no time.

[Doc Dutch]

A Duty To Retreat means that your first priority is to try to save as many lives as possible. If it is safer just to retreat, then just retreat. It certainly is safer for the other person. The other person might not be attacking.

Let's use the example of the girl who comes home early from a slumber party. She enters the house in the middle of the night, when her father does not think she will be in the house. He hears someone moving around the house. He has two choices, retreat or shoot. With 20/20 hindsight, shooting is not the right choice.

There is evidence that mistaken self defense out numbers actual self defense. This just rises the death toll.

No one has a right to bully or intimidate others. While the examples you mentioned were extreme, you also mentioned cases that are pending in court.

According to you a gang can take over a street and intimidate anyone they like, including in people’s own homes because you have a “duty to retreat” or “it’s the safest way to save lives”. Bullshit. Shoot the fuckers down.

Consider Kenosha and the little scrap among dumbasses. If you and I lived on that street, do you think I should have the right to put a bullet through the fat boy’s back after he shot the first unarmed person in order to save lives? What about the Insurrection? Shouldn’t everyone just have retreated?

[Doc Dutch]

Wtf is this "African-American" bullshit? Lemme tell you summin': Once somebody's family's been here for 200 years or more, there ain't no "Africa" about it, motherfucker!

There's black people, Black Americans, but there ain't too many "African Americans" 'round heanh. but the city is around 27% black (Americans). I do know some African Americans, and they're white.

They speak Dutch. That entire post of yours couldn't be more wrong.

C'mon down heanh and we'll introduce ya to Wally the gator. Or maybe Sally the sow.

She could clean a big piece of shit like you up in no time.

^^^ Demented cocksucker dodges questions, spreads lies, spreads racism and is supported by JPP’s chickenshit keyboard commandos and traitors.

[Celticguy]

That was pretty good. One time we caught a gator with a rubber worm while fishing and put it in a cooler. Then asked 1 dude to hand us a soda out the cooler.

now THATS a day to remember !

[Matt Dillon]

No one has a right to bully or intimidate others. While the examples you mentioned were extreme, you also mentioned cases that are pending in court.

According to you a gang can take over a street and intimidate anyone they like, including in people’s own homes because you have a “duty to retreat” or “it’s the safest way to save lives”. Bullshit. Shoot the fuckers down.

Consider Kenosha and the little scrap among dumbasses. If you and I lived on that street, do you think I should have the right to put a bullet through the fat boy’s back after he shot the first unarmed person in order to save lives? What about the Insurrection? Shouldn’t everyone just have retreated?

You roll with that, Dutchy. Lots of people don't have to play by your rules.

[Matt Dillon]

now THATS a day to remember !

Oh there's more to that story than that. Yeah, I almost died that day. Under water with my feet a foot deep in silt that didn't want to let go.

[Doc Dutch]

You roll with that, Dutchy. Lots of people don't have to play by your rules.

No worries, Matt, I will if the need arises. Killing traitors and terrorists is a duty of all Americans who are able to do so.

Fortunately, I doubt that will ever happen since the traitors and terrorists you support from the safety of your facility will be taken down by patriotic law enforcement officers.

[Celticguy]

Oh there's more to that story than that. Yeah, I almost died that day. Under water with my feet a foot deep in silt that didn't want to let go.

wow, this is getting more "Florida" by the second !